Mladen,

Thanks -- one thing I can be sure of is that they won't start loading
files, at least in staging and production, because I haven't given them
(nor will the data center do so) permission. Everything has to do
through either me or change control procedures. Or both.

I knew about the java pool. This is a brand new system so asking for a
hardware upgrade is not likely. They want to call this function every
time someone does a search on the site.

This goes back to the discussion I had a week or so ago about the
diacritical marks, the developer thinks people will be entering them...
cut and paste? Not likely. 

Rachel
--- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, Java is not so bad idea. Aurora does pretty much the same
> thing
> as PL/SQL and it is very hard to get to OS or network because
> security
> doesn't let
> you. On the plus side, bad programs in Java are more portable then
> the ones
> in 
> PL/SQL. IDE software for Java is better suited for duhvelopers then 
> the one for PL/SQL.
> You will have to increase Java pool and you will have to increase
> system 
> tablespace because your developers will start  abusing loadjava
> almost 
> instantly and start loading .jar files (like for XML, for instance).
> Also, 
> your CPU and RAM usage will go up fairly quickly so  you might
> consider 
> convincing your boss to finally do that HW upgrade.
> Expect attempts to use thin JDBC driver. The nice features of the
> thin
> driver 
> are 
> a) It's written entirely in Java, which makes it much slower then an
>    optimized C code like OCI driver and, therefore, preferred by
> duhvelopers
>    in the name of "generality" and "universality". Stupidity is
> another
>    very universal thing.
> b) The thin driver can only use dedicated server connection which
> does
> miracles
>    for load balancing. There is "connection pooling", which also
> requires
>    dedicated server to work. Because it cannot use MTS and TNS in
> general,
>    thin driver must have a hard-wired connection string written in
> the code
> or 
>    parameter file, which apparently doesn't diminish "generality" and
> 
>    "universality".
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:08 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: java stored procedures
> > 
> > 
> > This really is my week for asking for help.
> > 
> > We have a project lead/developer here who wants to use a java
> stored
> > procedure, wrapped in a PL/SQL function, to implement a 
> > search function
> > on the site.
> > 
> > Besides the fact that this is the first I've heard of the request,
> and
> > that I think he is reinventing the wheel in what he wants to 
> > do in this
> > procedure (normalize text data that we already GET normalized
> > elsewhere), and that we are supposed to go into QA testing by the
> end
> > of the month and he STILL hasn't locked down the schema etc....
> > 
> > Personal prejudices aside, I've heard vague rumblings that Java in
> the
> > database is not optimal. We'll be in 9iR2, although he's developing
> > against an 8.1.7 database (don't ask, I'm not responsible for that
> > database other than to provide him with schema ddl, there IS no
> real
> > development server here).
> > 
> > Before I categorically say no or yes, are there any "gotchas" 
> > I need to
> > look out for?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Rachel
> > 
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