Title: RE: No Nulls? (was: Warehouse design: snowflake vs star schem

"No application that I can reasonably think of should
use NULLS, except those pre-81
where there are obsolete columns."

Everytime somebody says this to me, I ask them:

How do you handle still employed employees in an EMPLOYEE table
that contains a END_EMPLOYEMENT date column?

What's your take?
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Subject: Re:No Nulls? (was: Warehouse design: snowflake vs star schem


Jesse,

    I'll refrain from personal comments, but on CJ's quote, he's correct.  Nulls
are an oddity.  They cannot be true or false (<column_name> = NULL or
<column_name> != NULL), nor can they equal anything.  They are in effect a third
logical state of nothingness.  You also have to code most applications with
indicator variables to check for their existence.  All in all a real pain in the
backside.  BUT, if you give me the possibility that nulls exist in the data I
much prefer using them vs. many a third party solution of a single space.  No
application that I can reasonably think of should use NULLS, except those pre-81
where there are obsolete columns.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Jesse; Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       10/14/2002 9:33 AM

On the link below is this quote from C.J.Date:

"I don't want you to think that my SQL solution to your problem means I
advocate the use of nulls.  Nulls are a disaster."

Of course, he doesn't expound upon it (probably not a need except for
dummies like me).  Anyone care to comment?  (On the quote, not on my
dumminess...)


Rich


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robson, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:59 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Warehouse design: snowflake vs star schemas
>
>
> Just for the record (and perhaps to confirm that there are
> always two sides
> to a story). Readers may like to see the article Chris Date
> wrote to Ralph
> Kemball on the subject of business rules and integrity constraints:
>
> http://www.dbdebunk.com/kimball1.htm
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