One other nice thing is to use partitioning option. You
put a partition offline, you back it up and drop it. Life goes on,
you add few columns to the table and - voila , your backup tape is useless,
you cannot actually bring the partition back. A very good tool to facilitate
archiving is produced by Princeton Softech
(http://www.princetonsoftech.com).
That tool does make life a lot easier. That tool solves the incompatibility
problem.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:30 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Data Purging - Approaches
> 
> 
> I'm not a proponent of purging data.
> 
> Unless of course, you expect to never see it again.
> 
> That word 'archive' rolls of the tongues of managers
> and consultants pretty easily, but what's behind it?
> 
> There are a few gotchas with purging and archiving.
> 
> Let's assume you have some 3 year old data that 
> you need to see again, and it has been purged.
> 
> Here are some of the possible problems:
> 
> *  Your backup tapes are corrupted
> *  Your new backup hardware can't read the old tapes
> *  Your software no longer understands the format that
>     the data is in.
> * You have the correct software, but it won't work on the
>    current version of OS on your hardware.
> * The data format/software/whatever is not well documented
> *  The employees that understood the data 3 years ago
>    have been laid off.
> * ... lots more stuff
> 
> Read Bryon Bergeron's "Dark Ages II: When the Digital Data Die"
> http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=2-0130661074-0
> 
> Perhaps much better than archiving the data, is to stick with the
> idea of moving it to another database, and using lots of cheap
> disk storage (NAS) or a heirarchical file system to store it.
> 
> The point being that if it's online somewhere, it will be maintained.
> 
> Don't purge it till Finance, HR, the IRS and any other stakeholder
> says it's ok.  Only then purge it and archive it to offline 
> tape with the
> knowledge that you may never see that data again.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>  Please respond to ORACLE-L
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>         To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
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>         Subject:        Data Purging - Approaches
> 
> 
> 
> Dear List, 
> 
> We need to remove data from our database everyday, so we are 
> plannning to 
> have a scheduled process for this. But the case is that we 
> cannot simply 
> remove the data. This data has to be made available at a 
> later time if 
> required. So this is the process that we have designed. 
> 1.      The background process would first insert all the 
> required data 
> from the main database to another database. 
> 2.      Now if this successfull, it would be deleted from the main 
> database. 
> 3.      The selection criteria on which the data to be purged 
> is found is 
> a business requirement. It is based on some date, but we 
> cannot partition 
> the data based on the date, otherwise we could have done with 
> paritioning 
> and dropping the partition could have been easily done. 
> 4.      The data in the second database would be archived in a normal 
> sequence 
> 5.      If any user request for the data already purged, the 
> data would be 
> read from the second database and shown to him. 
> 
> 
> Now the issue, the data that has to be moved or deleted in such a way 
> would mount to more that 10 GB of data, so is this method a 
> good solution. 
> Can anybody suggest a better approach for doing this. 
> 
> 
> We are using Oracle 9i database, Weblogic Application server and Java 
> client. We have list partitioned our database. 
> 
> Any other data purging techniques would be greatly appreciated. 
> 
> Regards 
> Prem Chandran N 
> 
> 
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