I'm not quite sure what you mean by "modify the database startup procedure."  You 
must be in MOUNT mode to change between archive and noarchive.  You don't need to 
change the mode each time you startup you database.  Once you put a database in 
archivelog mode, you are in that mode until you change it - no matter how many 
startup/shutdowns you do.
  It doesn't matter if you have a cold vs. hot backup.  As long as you have database 
backup and all of your archivelogs, you can do a point-in-time recovery from that 
backup until your last archivelog.

Jay

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I'm up for my backup and recovery class here soon, but this conversation has
brought up questions
that I think some of you wouldn't mind discussing anyway.  I see where
implementing archive logs
requires that you modify the database startup procedure to turn on archiving
before opening the 
database.  At this point the DBA should do an immediate "baseline" backup
(orafaq =)) which 
implies a hot/online backup.  I am curious how this goes with point in time
cold backups. ie. DBA
does a cold backup opens the database in archive log mode.  Can you apply
accumulated archive
logs to a restore from cold backup ?  perhaps there are issues with the
control file information.....

 
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Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:53 AM
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theoretically only the archive files after the backup started are needed.
but there might be issues of a corrupted backup, and to guard against that
we have a policy of keeping archive files for one week.
 
you should also keep checking your backups by restoring them to a separate
location periodically
 
regards
Naveen






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