Scott Heisey taught the "New Features for 8i" administrators class that I took.
Yeah, he's in my top ten of Oracle instructors. A not at all complete, in no particular order list is: Scott Gossett Scott Heisey Sue Jang John Hough Please note, I have NOT taken classes from all the Oracle instructors, nor have I taken a class in recent years, so if there are new and/or as good, instructors, I don't know of them. Rachel --- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, he isn't. There is another guy, named Scott Heisey, who > teaches > an OPS/RAC version of this course. He is also supposed to be one of > the > great sages of the Oracle Corp. I've attended Scott Gossett's course > and it > was fabulous. I've only heard about Scott Heisey and it is my great > wish to > go to his course. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100@;yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:24 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > that I know of yes unfortunately, because I believe Scott is the > only > > one teaching the classes. > > > > Is there a separate and distinct Oracle education site for the UK > and > > Europe? > > > > Rachel > > --- Mark Leith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Are these Internals classes only available in the US? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Carmichael > > > Sent: 29 October 2002 11:04 > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > Tom, > > > > > > I didn't mean to imply that you were going into damagement! > > > > > > I was lucky enough to have someone point me to "seminars" > > and figured > > > I'd share my luck. > > > > > > I think the reason they don't publicize it is that he is > > the only one > > > teaching it and it's full without publicizing. Can you imagine if > > > they > > > made it generally available? He'd have time to do nothing else! > > > > > > Rachel > > > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless > > > about > > > > the > > > > details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the > internals > > > > course by > > > > searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott > > said that > > > I > > > > just > > > > managed to luck out when I searched for the course and > > found it. I > > > > mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed > > from online > > > > registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and > not > > > > publicizing the course. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com > > > > > > > > > > you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult > to > > > > find, > > > > > but it IS there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for > > > > versions > > > > > > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week > internals > > > > > > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of > > > > non-disclosure > > > > > > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to > > > Customer > > > > > > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these > courses? > > > > Surely > > > > > > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A > difficulty > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to > benefit > > > from > > > > the > > > > > > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two > weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a > new > > > > version > > > > > > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no > > > > > > initialization parameters and the database maintains and > tunes > > > > > > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle > > DBAs have > > > > lost > > > > > > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his > job > > > > because > > > > > > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2 > and > > > 3, > > > > huh? > > > > > > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of > Oracle > > > I > > > > had > > > > > > that came on a single diskette. > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You > have > > > to > > > > > > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people > > > > registered > > > > > > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up > > > then > > > > > > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of > the > > > > > > course.. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Nick Wagner > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM > > > > > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rumor has it that this course is not going to be > > > > offered/modified > > > > > > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also > came > > > > back > > > > > > extremely pleased with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100@;yahoo.com] > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott is the "instructors's instructor" > > > > > > > > > > > > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the > > > > instructors so > > > > > > > > > > > > they can teach them to you > > > > > > > > > > > > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a > few > > > > years > > > > > > ago > > > > > > as well. He's a great teacher. > > > > > > > > > > > > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO > SEE > > > > HIM > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago. > Yup, > > > > Scott > > > > > > flies > > > > > > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots > of > > > > extra > > > > > > > material to > > > > > > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the > class > > > how > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > developers > > > > > > > documented something then tell how it's actually > > built. He > > > > keeps > > > > > > a > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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