Jared - there was a very similar project done here a few years back - and
yes it's still running even though the DW is starting to breathe ;-)

they implemented the intranet solution.  reports go to text files on an NT
box, a DOS script picks them up, runs them thru a text-to-pdf on the cheap
tool, and places them in a directory structure by date.  an IIS server
serves them up.  i could get you the specifics on that text to PDF converter
if you wish.  the rest is all custom scripting - and didn't take that long
i'm told.  i sit right next to the guy who built it.

done before my time or it'd likely be apache & perl on solaris ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jared Still [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:43 AM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      Fwd: Re: Reporting - Casting about for ideas
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday 31 October 2002 14:45, Fink, Dan wrote:
> > Jared,
> >     To state the obvious...'Throw away solutions some how never get
> > thrown away'.
> 
> Yeah, well, I had thought of this.  I'm stuck with this strategy however.
> 
> >     Okay, now on to the real task at hand. A couple of ideas
> >     Dump the reports out to html format (sql*plus can do this) and the
> > users can hit an url for the history. Using a little code to insure that
> > the front page shows the current report, with a secondary page with
> links
> > to other pages/reports.
> >     Dump the compiled data to flat files on the network and let another
> > app (access/excel) get the data, format, graph, display it, etc.
> >     Oh, (in deference), write a series of perl scripts...
> 
> Sqlplus won't work.  This is SAP.  If you're not familiar with SAP,
> sqlplus
> is not an adequate reporting tool.  Though all SAP data is stored in
> tables
> in the database, there are some that are stored as either 'CLUSTER' or
> 'POOL' tables, SAP terminology, not Oracle's.  The data is not readable
> from sqlplus.
> 
> Whatever the solution, I want to avoid coding an infrastructure. I'm
> looking
> for a solution that is fairly simple to build.  It may or may not get
> thrown
> out later, but there will eventually be a DW to supplant it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jared
> 
> > Dan Fink
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > First, a little background.  A coworker and I have been charged with
> > developing and implementing a 'short term' 'Reporting Solution'.
> >
> > Glossary:
> >
> > short term:  low cast, fast to implement, throw it away late next year
> >
> > Reporting Solution:  Some method to make it easy for users to
> > see oft run reports without re-running them on the production SAP
> > ( and other apps also ) systems.
> >
> > The goal of the 'Reporting Solution' is perceived performance.
> > Only 1 or 2 of these reports have any detrimental performance
> > impact on the servers.  The goal is to allow users to view current
> > and historic reports ( up to 90 days ) without being required to
> > wait on reports to run on the application/database servers.
> >
> > This is partly political, partly user friendly.
> >
> > The political part is that we want to do *something* for users so
> > that it looks like we're taking their requirements to heart, even
> > though we don't have the resources to do much right now.
> >
> > The user friendly part is that we want to do *something* for users so
> > that we can make their jobs a little easier, even  though we don't
> > have the resources to do much right now.
> >
> > One idea we have is to have an ABAPer ( SAP programmer ) setup
> > the most requested reports to run in batch mode with a specified range
> > of dates and whatever parameters are needed.
> >
> > This would be done periodically, the report output put on a network
> > filer or database or something accessible via browser ( no shared
> > drive type solution, access is to iffy ), and a web page that would
> allow
> > simple navigation to reports by Category/Date.
> >
> > Click on the report, view your data.
> >
> > One thing that this is *not*, is a data warehouse and/or data marts.
> >
> > This is to be a low cost solution.  Some software OK, a server is Ok
> > if necessary.  The key is fairly easy and quick implementation.
> >
> > I'm open to any and all ideas you may have for this, experiences doing
> > similar projects, etc.  If it uses Oracle software, that's cool, if not,
> > that's
> > cool too.  Oracle is involved in any solution: at the very least, that's
> > where
> > all our source data is stored.
> >
> > Thanks for reading this long winded message.
> >
> > Jared
> 
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