Whether their colleagues are using it too... if it's in use elsewhere, then probably it is less of a risk.
At least they can justify the decision by pointing at how many other people are doing it to. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Stephen, I don't disagree with any of this, but you have to understand that managers do not care about the same things we do. Bottom line: what's it going to cost? What's the ROI? Those are not easy things to answer. Thanks, Jared On Monday 11 November 2002 18:58, Stephen Lee wrote: > -----Original Message----- > Now that that's out of the way, what I am trying to do is find > objective material comparing the use of MS Windows 2000 > Server on Intel HW to Solaris on Sun HW. > ------------------------------------------------ > > My personal bias against Windows is based mostly on three things. > > 1. Incompatibility with everything else. Microsoft makes its products as > incompatible as it can get away with so that once you start going down the > Microsoft path, you become more and more locked into that path. > > 2. It is a single-user operating system. Microsoft has done a pretty good > job of making it look otherwise by tacking on some multi-user extensions; > but it is, in fact, NOT a multi-user OS. Just try creating a general user > so that user can install, upgrade, and maintain their application without > having administrator privilege. It ain't gonna happen. And that brings up > the main problem with this arrangement: Every user that must support an > application on the box must have administrator privilege. This, of course, > presents a completely insecure environment. > > 3. In its "normal" form, there is an amazing lack of the kind of support > and scripting utilities the are normal on Unix. True, if one wants to > spend the time, many of the utilities can be set up on NT; but that > involves additional setup and maintenance time -- which your NT admins > might not be inclined to do if the bureaucracy of your organization > requires that they do it. If your scripting abilities are substantial, > then you, no doubt, automate many things with scripts. If you have built > these scripts with a non-standard environment, then you have built your > house on shifting sand. (By the way, this is why I do not fully support > Linux.) > > I must agree that I do like the Dell Poweredge stuff. I was using it years > ago, and the value is certainly compelling. It's too bad that Sun did the > same thing with Solaris on Intel that IBM did to OS/2 (got very stuck up > about it and over-priced the crap out of everything until it was too late). > But the Sun hardware (and IBM too) ain't all that shabby either. And my > past experience -- when I was a sys admin work -- with Sun customer support > was very positive. IBM .... eh, so-so ... maybe. > > Perhaps another thing to consider: If you have ever tried to upgrade the OS > on a NT box supporting third-party applications, I suspect you discovered > that it can be an excrutiatingly painful experience ... If you even > succeeded at all. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
