On Wednesday 13 November 2002 06:28, Grabowy, Chris wrote: > Hmmmm...that's an interesting stance. > > You won't trust Linux, but you'll trust Perl?
Perl doesn't run my SAP production. > > So why not rewrite Linux in Perl? :) > > So you trust SAP on buggy/swiss cheese W2K? Yes, W2K seems to work pretty well for me. Jared > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Lyndon, > > I like linux. I've been using it for 10 years now. > > It still isn't ready to run my production SAP systems though. > > I don't mean that it's not capable of doing so, it's very capable. > > There is not the history of support and stability that is needed to > trust my enterprise data to it. My Oracle dev server? No > problem, I love it. > > Will I put my butt on the line for bleeding edge technology? > > No way. SAP runs our business, pure and simple. If it's down, we are > not selling product, we are not producing product. > > I'm not ready to trust linux that far yet. > > Jared > > On Monday 11 November 2002 19:34, Lyndon Tiu wrote: > > Seriously now. > > > > I know you are trying to evaluate Solaris and Windows, but ... > > > > Linux is the way to go. Sun's are expensive machines. > > > > NT/2K are cheap(er) but locks you into an expensive software upgrade > > cycle. > > > > Linux costs very little and runs on cheap hardware. > > > > -- > > Lyndon Tiu > > > > On Monday 11 November 2002 06:58 pm, Stephen Lee wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Now that that's out of the way, what I am trying to do is find > > > objective material comparing the use of MS Windows 2000 Server on > > > Intel HW to Solaris on Sun HW. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > My personal bias against Windows is based mostly on three things. > > > > > > 1. Incompatibility with everything else. Microsoft makes its > > > products as incompatible as it can get away with so that once you > > > start going down the Microsoft path, you become more and more locked > > > > > > into that path. > > > > > > 2. It is a single-user operating system. Microsoft has done a > > > pretty good job of making it look otherwise by tacking on some > > > multi-user extensions; but it is, in fact, NOT a multi-user OS. > > > Just try creating a general user so that user can install, upgrade, > > > and maintain their application without having administrator > > > privilege. It ain't gonna happen. And that brings up the main > > > problem with this arrangement: Every user that must support an > > > application on the box must have administrator privilege. This, of > > > course, presents a completely insecure environment. > > > > > > 3. In its "normal" form, there is an amazing lack of the kind of > > > support and scripting utilities the are normal on Unix. True, if > > > one wants to spend the time, many of the utilities can be set up on > > > NT; but that involves additional setup and maintenance time -- which > > > > > > your NT admins might not be inclined to do if the bureaucracy of > > > your organization requires that they do it. If your scripting > > > abilities are substantial, then you, no doubt, automate many things > > > with scripts. If you have built these scripts with a non-standard > > > environment, then you have built your house on shifting sand. (By > > > the way, this is why I do not fully support > > > Linux.) > > > > > > I must agree that I do like the Dell Poweredge stuff. I was using > > > it years ago, and the value is certainly compelling. It's too bad > > > that Sun did the same thing with Solaris on Intel that IBM did to > > > OS/2 (got very stuck up about it and over-priced the crap out of > > > everything until it was too late). But the Sun hardware (and IBM > > > too) ain't all that shabby either. And my past experience -- when I > > > > > > was a sys admin work -- with Sun customer support was very positive. > > > > > > IBM .... eh, so-so ... maybe. > > > > > > Perhaps another thing to consider: If you have ever tried to upgrade > > > > > > the OS on a NT box supporting third-party applications, I suspect > > > you discovered that it can be an excrutiatingly painful experience > > > ... If you even succeeded at all. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
