Would there be any Performance Overhead in the Newly ATTACHED Oracle 8i Database 
after moving it to production ?

NOTE - Database Size 100 GB with 800 Concurrent Users Currently 

Are there any Other Pre-requisites / TO DOs to Allow Detaching of Application 
Tablespaces
from the Previously Migrated Oracle 8i Database to the NEWLY Created 8i Database ?

Sorry for the Ignorance
 

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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:54 PM
To: VIVEK_SHARMA


Vivek,
This transportable TBS option come with 8i onwards, and once you have 
migrated to 8i you can detach application tbs and attached these to new 8i 
database.

Thanks & Regards,
Vipin Jain

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From:   VIVEK_SHARMA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:41 PM
To:     LazyDBA.com Discussion
Subject:        RE: Move ALL Data from 1 Database into Another

Forgive the previous incomplete post.

Hi Ankur

QS. After Migrating the Oracle 7 Database to 8i , Using Transportable 
Tablespaces
Can one Simply use DETACH the Application Tablespaces (OTHER Than SYSTEM) & 
Attach them
to the Newly Created 8i Database ?

Thanks Indeed

Hi Jeremiah

Some of the Data Dictionary Objects are Corrupted in the Live Production 
Oracle 7 Database
& Even after Migration to Oracle 8.1.7.4 the Corruption Still persists .

Nevertheless I missed Some of your Points .

MY QUESTIONS(QS.) TO SOME OF YOUR POINTS ARE IN CAPITALS BELOW :-

Thanks indeed

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Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I don't like any of the suggestions so far, because they take more
time than necessary.  DB links do ONE ROUND TRIP for every row
fetched!  That is not efficient.  Export is a nightmare of potential
failures. I think you can devise the best solution by just copying the
database files.

Try this idea on for size:

0. Make sure both versions of Oracle are installed on the host.

1. Make a hot backup or RMAN copy of the database, and start it under
a different SID.

QS. CHANGING SID WOULD WARRANT A RESETLOGS . IS THAT CORRECT ?


2. Upgrade the copy to 8.1.7, but keep COMPATIBLE at 7.3.4.

3. Roll the copy forward to the current time using the logs generated
by the old 7.3.4 instance, which is still in use.

QS. IS IT POSSIBLE TO APPLY REDO LOGS GENERATED FROM A DIFFERENT SID TO A 
NEW SID ?

4. Shut down the old instance, apply the last log to the new one, and
restart the new one with COMPATIBLE = 8.1.7.

5. Replace the listener with an 8.1.7 listener pointing at the new
instance.

This method gives you near zero downtime between kicking the users off
the old database and letting them into the new one.

--
Jeremiah Wilton
http://www.speakeasy.net/~jwilton

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