Hey guys, in the name of all the persons (me too) who
are not experts, genius, gurus, etc... Can we stop
this useless discussion? I mean, the one that wants,
just answer to Robert and let's to the rest of us to
continue learning Oracle!

Just a comment ;-)
Gabriel


--- "MacGregor, Ian A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did read your post.  I stated you were taking a
> poll, the "popularity" characterization is no where
> to be found in my message.  Nor is there any
> implication in my post that you were running a
> "beauty contest".   Perhaps my choice of the word
> important instead of useful or informative was what
> caused the confusion.  
> 
> Once one has acquired a certain amount of Oracle
> expertise most posts are mere confirmations of what
> one already knows, and  things one learns from this
> forum are added  to that expertise increasing the
> likelihood that future posts will be
> reconfirmations.  There are certainly persons whose
> expertise greatly exceeds mine.  These people are
> most likely to post messages I find worth saving. 
> There are folks at roughly the same level.  Nearly
> all of their posts are  reconfirmations, but there
> are still many  worth saving.  There are those who I
> would judge to have a poorer understanding of most
> of Oracle, but have a better grasp on certain
> specifics.  Very few of their posts are worth
> saving, but those which are, are  as informative as 
> "expertise greatly exceeds" group.    
> 
> Along the same lines, no one on this group is
> infallible.   There are lurkers  who post very
> infrequently, but when they do  demonstrate a very
> detailed knowledge of a facet of Oracle when they
> correct or complete  answers given by folks rightly
> held in high esteem.   Your polling method would
> miss these important posts.
> 
> We are presently moving toward RMAN.  I'm currently
> saving many of your posts, but as I acquire more
> knowledge and the new becomes second nature many of
> those posts will lose their importance and be
> discarded.  There is a definite temporal element.
> 
> All this indicates there is little use in saving all
> the posts of anyone nor is discarding posts based
> solely on who sent wise.
> 
> Ian MacGregor
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:24 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Read the post Ian, this isn't a popularity poll, I
> have no interest in those. I *HAVE* to cull out my
> mail box for certain reasons I can't discuss at the
> *moment*. I offered to provide a summary of the
> results if the group was interested, but that's not
> the purpose.
> 
> The truth of the matter is that I have some 20,000
> messages to cull out, so I need to establish some
> criteria on what to keep and what not to keep. My
> thinking was that there are those who consistently
> provide the most insight. That being the case, I
> would make sure that they are the ones that get
> stored for certain. 
> 
> >> Our levels of expertise on  different aspects of
> Oracle are eclectic.
> Amen!
> 
> 
> 
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> Oracle Database Architect
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> Author of several Oracle books you can find on
> Amazon.com!
> 
> Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in
> the same package. How efficient of you. 
> 
> �
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:44 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> You are taking a poll to find out which messages are
> most important and
> worth saving?   How does that work?   I keep
> messages containing helpful
> scripts, messages which eloquently and precisely
> explain and  or demonstrate Oracle concepts and
> programming,  messages on areas of which I am
> ignorant,
> and messages which disprove beliefs I have long
> held.   Even if we all used
> the same criteria we would save different messages. 
> Our levels of expertise on  different aspects of
> Oracle are eclectic.  
> 
> 
> Ian MacGregor
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Board - 
> 
> If you had to choose the 10 top posters here at
> Oracle-L who provided the biggest input and 
> knowledge, who would they be? Who are the top 10
> Oracle Guru's on this news group?  I'm asking
> because my mailbox is FULL, and I have to trash a
> large amount of the stored stuff thats here. I'm
> going to archive some of it to CD, but I have
> limited space, so I want to archive those people who
> are constantly offering the most insightful advice
> (I know it's available online, but I'm not always
> online and it's nice to be able to search these
> emails for targeted content).
> 
> Anyone want to take a crack at a list? You are
> welcome to email me private if you are afraid you
> would hurt someone's feelings. I'd be happy to
> compile the lists and report back to the group the
> overall answers, but all email to me will be treated
> as strictly confidential.
> 
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> Oracle Database Architect
> CSX Midtier Database Administration
> Author of several Oracle books you can find on
> Amazon.com!
> 
> Londo Mollari: Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in
> the same package. How efficient of you. 
> 
> �
> 
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