John,

I'm not sure what kind of timeframe you are looking at but you could
consider Move for Servers.  I do not know if it handles this specific
problem but my experience with the product has been very good (certainly
handles long raws, etc) and their support is very forthcoming.  I believe
the product is quite cheap and could also be useful to you in other areas.
We use it frequently to create relationally intact subsets of data for
testing and it's both quick and easy.

Regards,
     Mark.

PS:  No, I don't hold stock in Princeton Softech (the vendor), but perhaps
I should.



                                                                                       
                                
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Thanks for that Peter and Yechiel, whilst both posts were useful I don't
think they really answered my questions.
I know I could replace the CR characters but that involves a vast amount of
pre-processing (these are very large tables and there are hundreds of them
and they are in constant use). It may work on a varchar2 field but I am not
sure about long (easy enough to test I know). I know there is also an issue
with PL/SQL having a 32K limit on an variable so I could not assign it
within a pl/sql loop.

There is also an issue of data integrity, this is part of a database
migration and we need to do it in the fastest manner possible (30 minute
downtime would be nice). The combination of moving o/s, Oracle versions and
having a lot of longs reduces our options quite significantly.
We have looked at a 3rd party ETL tool which does what we want and moves
the
data very very quickly (it does not write to disk and therefore does not
need to perform any file i/o processing). However it stops dead when it
hits
a CR (it uses sqlldr as it's main means of loading data).
Changing data would not endear us to the users and gain any confidence in
the process

Thanks anyway

John

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You can use
select translate(field1||chr(126)||field2||chr(126),chr(015),' ')
in the program that creates the sequential file.
this will replace every chr(015) with blank.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Listers,
> I have got a number of tables with long columns in them. The text is
> free-format and contains carriage returns. Some long columns may be empty
> and others will have varying lengths of data (typical call-centre
operator
> input scenario) there is no  end of record marker that is common between
> columns.
> I need to extract each record and load it via sqlldr into another system.
I
> could extract using field1||chr(126)||field2||chr(126) etc 126 being the
~
> character but that does not get around the chr(015) CR issue.
>
> I understand sqlldr has issues with CR and I have tried various ways of
> resolving this problem. I cannot pre-process the records and remove the
CR
> character because of the volume of data and the lack of time involved.
>
> I have looked at the stream record format option in my control  file and
I
> fail to get this tro work as it seems to hang the session every time I
call
> it. I also suspect that it defines a common end of record marker and as I
do
> not have one I would have to massage the data which is not a route I can
go
> down. PS This is Tru64 and 8.1.7 but I think it is a general issue and
not
> specific to any version of Oracle or o/s
>
> Furthermore it appears that using stream record format parameter reduces
> performance which is a key requirement for us.
>
> The questions are
>
> 1) How have other people managed with carriage returns in long columns
> (I suspect a CR in a varchar2 field will be a problem as well)?
> 2) Is the stream record format the way I want to go (I suspect not)
> 3) Has anybody any better ideas
>
> TIA
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
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