There is a deadlock here - but I confused the
issue by making complete garbage of the last
phrase. Instead of:

>> both X and Y might end up waiting for A.

I should have said

>> both Y and Z might end up waiting for X
  (which is when you won't get the deadlock)

The critical point comes in the previous
paragraph though:

>> With a little luck, Y will be waiting for Z
>> and Z will be waiting for Y (i.e. DEADLOCK)

For Oracle 9, I have only introduced the X
session to take out one ITL slot from each
of the two blocks because Oracle 9 forces
a minimum value of 2 entries per ITL.

This really is a deadlock - which will show a
deadlock graph with holders in mode 6 and
waiters in mode 4.   (X and S if I've got the
letters right - personally I prefer numbers).


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-----Original Message-----
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 December 2002 22:45


>Jonathon,
>
>This produces ITL waits for sessions Y and Z; but this is not
deadlock. The
>deadlock occurs due to a situation where the Session 1 waits for
something
>to finish in Session 2, which in turn waits for Session 1 AND, this
is
>important, Oracle detects it and kills one of them, rolling back the
>changes, making a deadlock detected error. Is this not the true error
>message that occured in the original  thread?
>
>In your example, sessions Y and Z will wait indefinitely until X
commits or
>rolls back. This is not going to be detected by Oracle nor killed by
it. So
>you wouldn't see a message DEADLOCK DETECTED in alert log. Therefore
setting
>INITRANS higher is not going to help at all. Rather the application
logic
>should be checked to remove a real locking conflict.
>
>Am I correct, or am I missing something here?
>
>Arup Nanda
>


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