If this is a one time DML activity, one may get creative with TTS and this hidden 
parameter :)  

- Kirti 

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In that case, you are pretty much SOL, sorry. nologging option of tables 
only applies to direct path operations:
create as select
direct path Sql*Loader
insert /*+ APPEND */

Other than that, all other DML will get logged in the redo log, and as 
several have pointed out, using the _disable_logging parameter is highly 
risky, and it is a catch-all situation.

HTH. Regards:

Ferenc Mantfeld

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From:   GL2Z/ INF  DBA BENLATRECHE [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:04 PM
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Subject:        RE: No logging question

As I understand, this hidden parameter is for the whole database.
In my case It's just for a few tables (I don't care about recovery of these
tables).

Thank you !

Best Regards
Kamel Benlatreche

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Welcome to the dark side, heh heh heh !

There is a hidden parameter that will achieve this . it is
_disable_logging. Be warned though, if you set it to true, you have lost
your ability to recover, and the only way you will recover is with full
cold backup and would lose all subsequent work (not generally popular with
the users), so the whole point of running in ARCHIVELOG mode becomes moot.

I have used this while still at Siebel, when doing very large installs or
upgrades of large databases in a tight time-window, and the customers
refused to move the redo logs over to solid state storage, I got about a
40% - 100% performance improvment, especially if the clients were conned
into placing the redo logs onto RAID-5 storage (bad for serial
write-intensive operations).

Nevertheless, if you have a specific need to disable all redo generation
for a specific time, this is the way to do it. BTW, it does not work on
Orale for Windows.

You have been warned, don't go trying this in production first thing, it
could cost you your job or more.

Regards :

Ferenc Mantfeld

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Subject:        No logging question

Hi All,


      I want to avoid generation of archivelogs against all the DML applied
to some tables.

Thank you
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