I got to see over 1,000 on a couple of cache buffers chains at one
Oracle7 site a few years ago. This was prior to when Server Technologies
set the limit of CR blocks in the buffer cache to 42 (spooky), and then
eventually created (I think) the _db_block_max_cr_dba parameter.

The cause was an application that used a "select for update / update /
commit" on one-row/one-column tables to generate sequence numbers
(instead of using real Oracle sequences).


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Lewis
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 1:50 PM
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You could try:

    select    file#, dbablk, count(*)
    from    x$bh
    group by 
        file#, dbablk
    having count(*) > 5
    ;

(technically you should include the 
tablespace number, but that won't 
matter if you have less than 1022 
files).

This will report the blocks which have an
unusually large number of CR copies in the
buffer.  There is a nominal limit of 7, but
if your buffer is excessive for the work done
then there is a fair chance that the most
intensively used blocks will have far more 
buffers.  (The worst case I saw was something
like 75).

The side effects of this would include lots of
spinning and sleeping on the cache buffers
chains latch.






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Date: 23 January 2003 19:05


I've got a cust that is showing some signs that one would
think is having a horrible problem on I/O...

I suspect it is the "error" of having a **HUGE** value
in db_block_buffers and it's constantly crunching memory
trying to figure out which ones to free up. It's only
256 meg, but depending on load, it may be too much. SGA
is 687 meg.

While I've got hundreds of SQL, I'm not sure I have one
to diagnose buffer utilization. It's also version 8.1.7
and I could probably do some tweaking of buffers.

It's Oracle CRM with a lot of customization and I'm also
finding some SQL that's getting a bit ugly under there.

Maks.


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