I'm not sure what legitimate education institutions are with respect to Oracle education :). I've seen Oracle taught at universities, and it's not necessarily as impressive as Oracle taught by an experienced consultant in a small outfit somewhere :).
But who cares? The point is (in my opinion) that that sort of Academic Initiative is done by all major vendors, including Microsoft and Oracle, but that Microsoft has a much, much better model for letting partners make money on training than Oracle has. The market, being rather effecient with the economic stuff in the longer term, reacts accordingly, and that will hurt Oracle in the years to come.
We all want Oracle to succeed. We all want many new DBA's and developers out there. But currently they're being trained on mySQL and SQL Server. Try to guess what that means for the future of databases.
Mogens
Ora NT DBA wrote:
Hi All,
This conversation didn't start out in dealing with educational institutions, it
started out as a group that wants to use it to make money.
Oracle is making every effort to work with legitimate education institutions. The
Oracle Academic Initiative does exactly what you describe. Institutions pay a
small fee (500.00 I think) they are have access to ALL Oracle Software for use in
instruction. They also have access to Oracle University Curriculum if desired.
more information can be found at:
http://oai.oracle.com
Regards,
John
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Quoting DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Richard - How do you think the Oracle Education division would react to this proposal? ;-) Never underestimate the power of corporate politics. But seriously a large organization succeeds to the extent that it can look at the long-term good of the organization. Overall I think Oracle Corp. has a pretty good track record in this respect, and that has contributed to its excellent growth. Who knows, maybe Oracle will consider your idea. It seems that Microsoft has a different business model for education. I don't think Microsoft teaches any classes directly, but just certifies training organizations and instructors.The point here is to allow people easier access to Oracle knowledge, through courses you can pick up at your local community college. What Oracle is doing right now is stifling this.
