Yes it is my understanding he does not have any online redo or archive logs
current or backups.  He just has current datafiles
where the database will not start because of no online redo so I can assume
those have been lost,corrupt,etc.

Thanks
Rick


                                                                                       
                       
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His last cold backup of the datafiles is his only option.  Without the
online redologs, assuming that he lost the physical files, he will have
to create a controlfile with the resetlogs option and open the database
in the same mode.  Is my assumption true?  Was he backing up only data
files and the database was in archivelog mode?

Allan

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Hi All,

One of my friends has a database crash.  He has no backup of  online
redo and archived log files. His question is How do you recover the
database if all the online redologfiles and all archived files are lost
?

Don't ask me why he did not have any backups or mirror online redo.

Thanks
Rick

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