Advanced Linux is free, but if you choose to buy prepackaged distribution then 
you have to pay for it. But you will find the same software as in 
"downloaded" distribution. :-)

I'm using SuSE workstation for Oracle developing and everyday office work more 
than 2 years now and, personally (!), to work today on Windows200 is a pain 
for me. I'm using KDE desktop.

JP

On Friday 28 February 2003 13:59, you wrote:
> www.opensource.org and other sites (The Register) and
> www.globetechnology.com (Globe & Mail's technology news site) mentioned
> that MS considers LINUX a threat.
>
> Last week I attended an OS security class where each student had two PCs,
> one was a Windows2000 machine, one was a LINUX machine.  The LINUX machine
> came with Gnome, which doesn't look all that bad.  I would argue that the
> LINUX GUI needs a bit of streamlining but you can see that it has
> dramatically improved.
>
> LINUX still has software compatibility problems, the courseware referred to
> a LINUX configuration program that (for some unknown reason) wouldn't work
> on our LINUX machines.
>
> The LINUX machines seemed to have older hardware, I have the impression
> that they were the ones the training center had "replaced and upgraded" to
> Windows2000, but now had turned around and were using them for teaching OS
> security on LINUX.  Speed was comparable.
>
> The irony is that as LINUX becomes more streamlined, vendors start charging
> for it... Will there be a meeting in the middle of open source OS and
> Windows?  If Microsoft has to reduce its prices for  Windows, how will it
> maintain its revenue growth?
>
> Advanced LINUX is not free either, I don't know how its price compares with
> the Windows2000 offering though.
>
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> As long as I'm not replaced by an open source (cheap) DBA ....
>
>
> Stephane Paquette
> Administrateur de bases de donnees
> Database Administrator
> Standard Life
> www.standardlife.ca
> Tel. (514) 925-7187
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:04 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>     I don't believe MS will ever give up.  Isn't that part of American
> Capitalism?  Your competitor does you one better on some test, therefore
> you've
> got to better them.  Give Oracle a couple of weeks and we'll here that one
> too.
>
>     But seriously, how many of us really care about the TP-C benchmark?
> It's
> great for marketing and the sales droids but how do I relate that to the
> business needs of where I'm working?  Great, we can push the database to
> 400K+
> transactions per second, wow.  Now if I could just get those 300 testers on
> the
> floor to take advantage of that when their tests are 5 minutes long!!
> Somehow
> the capabilities of the server/database combination has gotten SOO big that
> it
> can't be filled anymore or so the users think when they release the query
> from
> hell.
>
>     BTW: As I look down the road to the future, I wonder how much of the
> commercial software industry is going to survive the wave of open source
> stuff
> coming down the pipe?  Here I am, today, sitting at a MS Win2K desktop with
> Oracle running on the database server.  A couple of years down the road I
> can
> see a Linux, or some derivative of it, as the desktop and PostgreSql on the
> database server.  Processing data will still have to happen and relational
> data
> will still be around, but will MS and Oracle??  Damn good question I'd have
> to
> say.
>
> /* rant mode off, cool mode on */
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:       2/27/2003 11:26 AM
>
> For your amusement, MS thinks they can "now" equal Oracle in performance
> (wasn't that what they claimed 3 years ago?).
> Anyway, I tend to think of these benchmarks like the NASCAR winners. Yeah
> I'm going to go by a Chrysler because it won the NASCAR championship.
>
> http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707
> <http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707>
>
>
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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