RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

[Toepke, Kevin M]

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As far as I can tell, the Explain Plan is 100% reliable. It shows how the query would execute if it was run from that session at that momement in time.

 

If you want to see how a query in the SGA actually ran, query the Oracle9i v$sql_plan view.

 

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Jamadagni, Rajendra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

Wolfgang ...

 

Now that explain plan is unreliable and will be even more in 10i, I'll always keep a silver dollar in my pocket. The coin toss is still right (in almost) 50% of the time.

 

Jeez ... what's next ... in 11i, SELECT statement *may* return data and in some cases would actually perform inserts into some other tables, because that's what you *wanted to do* anyways ... right?

 

I want my dBase IV back ...

Raj

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-----Original Message-----
From: Wolfgang Breitling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:09 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: How Reliable is Explain Plan in 9.2

Yes, explain plan will become increasingly unreliable as the cbo takes more
and more factors and current conditions current into account. Some of the
factors that can change the outcome of a parse from session to session are:

for Oracle 8
- different session parameters (db_file_multiblock_read_count,
hash_multiblock_io_count, sort_area_size, hash_area_size)

for Oracle 9i additionally
- you can let Oracle dynamically set the sort_area_size and other memory
parameters so you have a moving target now
- bind variable peeking - the first parse determines the plan for all
following sql depending on its bind value
- system statistics in effect at the time of parse. If the system
statistics get changed, existing plans do not get invalidated, but if you
do an explain the cbo will use the current values
- dynamic sampling where the optimizer tries to improve on its estimates by
sampling predicate values at the time of parsing.

from comments I heard, it will get "worse" (as far as explain differing
from reality is concerned) with Oracle 10. The optimizer will try and learn
from past executions of a sql and modify the plan if appropriate.

At 08:35 AM 3/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Just had a fellow tell me that explain plan in completely unreliable in 9.2
>and getting accurate results requires direct SGA access on executing SQL (he
>is working in a RAC environment).  They are running Precise, a good product,
>but this sounds like something a sales person told him.  I can only recall
>that occasionally the plan executed is not the plan you see in explain plan.
>Anyone know the truth of this issue?

Wolfgang Breitling
Centrex Consulting Corporation
http://www.centrexcc.com

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