Tim, I like the concept alot and will put it on my list to try out in the near future. thanks for the ideas, I've not tried any of the commands but will definitely try them.

thanks, joe


Tim Gorman wrote:


Joe,

Thinking outside the box a little...

How about if you query the recovery catalog views on RMAN repository
database, using a technique of "SQL-generating-RMAN"?

Connecting to the recovery catalog database, you could query the
RC_BACKUP_CONTROLFILE view to generate a series of CATALOG CONTROLFILECOPY
commands, query the RC_BACKUP_DATAFILE view to generate a series of CATALOG
DATAFILECOPY commands, and query the RC_BACKUP_REDOLOG view to generate a
series of CATALOG ARCHIVELOG commands.  Of course, you'd have to join all
these views to RC_BACKUP_SETS and RC_BACKUP_PIECES in order to get the
actual filenames/file handle-names as well, so query wouldn't be quite
trivial, but nothing too crazy.

So, your queries in SQL*Plus against the RMAN recovery catalog database
would spool out a script of RMAN commands.  Then exit SQL*Plus and connect
to RMAN in NOCATALOG mode to run the generated commands against the target
database.

I'd be concerned about the after-effect of doing this when you finally do a
subsequent RESYNC CATALOG, but until I get a chance to test this sometime
next week, perhaps some enterprising soul might consider giving it a try in
a test environment?

What do you think?

-Tim

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the catalog has all of the current backup info, so if i lose the
repository(before taking a backup after rebuilding the controlfile),
I'm SOL.  I logged a tar and oracle's response is, no way to push
catalog info back into the controlfile.

joe




Joe - I'm confused. If you rebuild the controlfile, what good is the


backup


information stored in the catalog? Other than maybe deciding to


revert to a


time before the rebuild, and you're going to need the catalog for that
anyway.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Robert, and all of you other RMAN gurus.


scenario 1: repository unavailable, so rman backup was done using
controlfile only. upon later successful connection to repository,


the


backup info was pushed from controlfile to repository(YEA).

scenario 2: I have to rebuild the controlfile and have a rman
repository. so i do a resync in rman, rebuild the controlfile and
connect back to repository, doing a resync HOPING that the


controlfile


gets updated with info from repository, no such luck. I did a dump


of


the controlfile(via alter session set events 'immediate trace name
controlf level 10'), looking for the section on BACKUP SET RECORDS


and


BACKUP PIECE RECORDS and there is nothing there.

so my question is this: is the resync only a one way push, i
understand oracle's mentality about not overwriting the backup


records


in the controlfile since that should be the true information, but is
there a way to force oracle/rman to push the repository info back


into


the controlfile, i've not found a solution for this.

if anyone is interested in the dump files, let me know and i'll make
them available on the web so you can see what I'm talking about.

thanks, joe




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