Title: RE: Really annoying
Trying to be a working mom lends one to look at best practices, cost-effectiveness, time-effectiveness - can't help it - it is true - please don't be offended.  I keep hitting my head against this and it has a very real opportunity cost to me.  Also, the truth is I have been behind-the-scenes helping things along and trying to stop others from having to relearn things over again or reinvent the wheel and trying to add some discipline to the DBA practice.  Should I shoot myself now?
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From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Really annoying

Yes, Paula, very true.  At least at my current employer having a DBA report to you seems like it's a power trip.  Every director has to have their own DBA.  They tried to consolidate us dba's into one group but no one would give up their DBA. 
 
Your environment will be even more of a nightmare when it's time for upgrades or patches, unless you have a really good working relationship with the other DBA's.
 
It is asinine but so is 90% of Corporate America.
 

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Monkey
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.

5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063
Office: 954-935-4117 
Fax:    954-935-3639
Cell:    954-683-4459

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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Really annoying

Really annoying pet peeve

Like certain types think they must own their hardware and nothing else can run on it - leading to one instance of a Oracle database "development" on one server per application use they also think they must have their own set of DBA's.  Is this really necessary, practical, cost-effective - I say no. 

To me there are different advantages to not segregating this way and sharing best practices, IT infrastructure personnel, production DBA's across the board. 

I say this negates economies of scale, best practices....  I could see some use of production and application DBA's on the same system but for each and every one?????????????????????????????????????????/

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