I think the docs must be talking about the fact that the files are created as 
sparse files. With sparse files you will get the same behavior. I have never 
noticed them being created smaller than the specified size.

Regards,
Denny

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> Tom,
> 
> Do you have that doc ref handy?
> 
> Using this SQL:
> 
> create temporary tablespace temp3 tempfile '/u01/oradata/dv03/temp3.dbf'
> 
> size 500m
> extent management local uniform size 1m
> /
> 
> On both 8.1.7.0 and 9.2.0.1 on RH 7.2 I found that the file was 
> immediately created full size.
> 
> Platform dependencies maybe?
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> LeRoy,
> 
> I just struggled with this last week.  You can't move Temporary Data 
> files.
> You need to drop and recreate the TEMP tablespace - creating the data 
> files
> in the correct directories.
> 
> On a side note - here is an interesting feature.  When Oracle creates 
> files
> for the TEMP tablespace, it does not create the files full sized like
> it
> does for normal data files.  It creates them smaller for speed purposes
> 
> (it
> creates the TEMP tablespace very fast) and will allow the TEMP data
> files 
> to
> grow as needed.
> 
> Now here is the kicker.  Let's say you have a disk that is 9 gig is
> size.
> You can create 10-1 Gig Temp data files on that disk.  Since Oracle does
> 
> not
> create the files full-sized, there is nothing to stop this from
> happening.
> Sometime later, as the TEMP tablespace gets used, the files grow until
> eventually the disk fills up, and a sql query crashes with an obscure
> disk
> io error.  Oracle is trying to expand the TEMP datafiles to the size
> it's
> been told they should be.  But there is no physical space left on
> disk.
> 
> Documentation in 817 does not mention this.  But 92 doc's are up to
> date.
> 
> nice surprise, eh?
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 8:39 AM
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> 
> 
> All -
> 
> I am having a problem with the datafiles in a temporary tablespace.  I
> need to move and rename three different datafiles in the tablespace. 
> I
> am able to take them offline - no problem.  I cna make the changes at
> the OS level.  I am running on Unix.  But I can't get the changes to
> show up in the OEM inorder to bring them back on-line.
> 
> Do I need to remove all users from this tablespace before making these
> changes?  The tablespace is temporary so does that make a difference?
> Any suggestions?
> 
> LeRoy
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