I will admit to getting mine simply as part of an ego trip. I figured that after 15 years of being an developer/DBA with Oracle I should have one. Has it made a difference to my salary or employment potential? Not one bit.
Dick Goulet ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 3/20/2003 9:24 AM I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA. I had been sent to training and interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA consultant w/o having the certification. It was based on my personal reputation, experience, network and interview. Those I believe still count more. However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing altogether well in the RDBMS market it's all good. Just get it on the cheap I say. Also, it may be the tie breaker for a new job. I wouldn't expect reimbursement or automatic job raise on this alone with the market in IT being what it was. Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid argument of a much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired management type. Oracle OCP DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager! After going through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think any of them got me a pay increase! ;) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- WILLIAMS Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support that over the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by nearly 40%. In the same period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly 60%. A good article on the value of certifications. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in the eWeek magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50. 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You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2654.45"> <TITLE>RE: Value of OCP</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I held out for 8 years as an Oracle DBA. I had been sent to training and interviewed Oracle DBA's and worked for Oracle as a DBA consultant w/o having the certification. It was based on my personal reputation, experience, network and interview. Those I believe still count more. However, in this tight IT market and with Oracle not doing altogether well in the RDBMS market it's all good. Just get it on the cheap I say. Also, it may be the tie breaker for a new job. I wouldn't expect reimbursement or automatic job raise on this alone with the market in IT being what it was. </FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Plus I got annoyed with this being used to justify the invalid argument of a much less experienced, less talented person by a pointed-haired management type. </FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Oracle OCP DBA</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Pete Sharman [<A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FON T> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:36 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Value of OCP</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Dang, I gotta get a copy of that report to my manager! After going</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>through the 7.3, 8, 8i and 9i OCP AND the OCM, I don't think any of them</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>got me a pay increase! ;)</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Pete</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>"Controlling developers is like herding cats."</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>WILLIAMS</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:50 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> </P> <BR> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Foote Partners surveys the value of certifications. They support that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>over the past two years, the OCP pay premium increased by nearly 40%. In</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the same period, the value of Microsoft MCP declined by nearly 60%.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>A good article on the value of certifications.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp"; TARGET="_blank">http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936853,00.asp</A></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>I don't see where they included the Foote data online. It is in the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>eWeek magazine 3/17/03 edition, page 50.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Dennis Williams</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lifetouch, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>[EMAIL PROTECTED] </FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Dennis Williams</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Lifetouch, Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>[EMAIL PROTECTED] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A HREF="http://www.orafaq.net"; TARGET="_blank">http://www.orafaq.net</A></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 <A HREF="http://www.fatcity.com"; TARGET="_blank">http://www.fatcity.com</A></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>---------------------------------------------------------------------</FO NT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>mailing list you want to be removed from). 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