A paperless office is like a paperless bathroom. Ken Janusz, CPIM
----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:38 PM > That sounds like another nice example of the fabled IBM's "paperless > office", > an approach that IBM was selling in the early 80's. IBM mainframe (3084 or > similar), > helped by the devices that they called "smart terminals" would allegedly > eliminate > any need to use paper in the office. Those wonder terminals were having it's > own > OS which was booting of a 5.25 floppy with 360k capacity and that OS was > produced > by some forsaken company near Seattle, WA and the salesman even didn't > remember > the company's name. I'm sure he knows the name now. And paper is stil > around. > The same is true about the "object databases". There was a product called > "Jasmine" > by CA, which was to become the very 1st truly OO database and, therefore, > kill RDBMSes. > Add Java to the mix and you've got an old story to sell to the new suckers. > Not gonna > happen. I have some stories to tell about how CA bought Ingres. Oracle > recruiting buses > were circling the campus like sharks. Ingres was integrated into Jasmine and > both products > sunk into oblivion. I'm sure that OODBMS written in Java will vanish into > the sunset > sooner then Saddam. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:44 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > This appeared on slashdot a few weeks ago. > > While it advertises implementations in several languages, I believe that > the only one that is actually done is Java. I didn't try it as I > generally avoid > Java. :) > > It sounds interesting, but it's use is somewhat limited to small systems, > at > least it appears that way. Of course, there are no transactions, data > integrity > or any of the other niceties that make life worth living. ;) > > Jared > > > > > > "Pardee, Roy E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 03/25/2003 12:59 PM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: FW: 9000x faster than Oracle? > > > Apropos of the 'Database Modeling- Normalization - Dinosaurs or What?' > thread: > Roy Pardee > Programmer/Analyst > SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT > Extension 8487 > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:56 PM > To: Jane; Kim; Mike; Nancy; Paul; Rick > > This looks interesting (from Slashdot.org): > > I wonder how long it would take to roll this thing forward after a server > crash... > > =================================== > Object Prevalence: Get Rid of Your Database? > > Posted by Hemos on Monday March 03, @08:45AM > from the throwing-it-out dept. > A reader writes:" Persistence for object-oriented systems is an incredibly > cumbersome task > to deal with when building many kinds of applications: mapping objects to > tables, XML, flat files or use some other non-OO way to represent data > destroys encapsulation completely, and is generally slow, both at > development and at runtime. The Object Prevalence concept, developed by > the Prevayler team, and implemented in Java, C#, Smalltalk, Python, Perl, > PHP, Ruby and Delphi, can be a great a solution to this mess. The concept is > pretty simple: > keep all the objects in RAM and serialize the commands that change those > objects, optionally saving the whole system to disk every now and then > (late at night, for example). This architecture results in query speeds > that many people won't believe until they see for themselves: some > benchmarks point out that it's 9000 times faster than a > fully-cached-in-RAM Oracle database, for example. Good thing is: they can > see it for themselves. Here's an article about it, in case you want to learn > more." > ( Read More... | 331 of 465 comments ) > > Roy Pardee > Programmer/Analyst > SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT > Extension 8487 > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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