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Ron Thomas
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> If you can change it to an IOT, it may be beneficial.
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> There's no blanket clause to be used that says 'Always do this'.
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> I higly encourage folks on this list to setup and use the run_stats
> method of comparing different access methods.  This is something
> Tom Kyte put together.  It is very simple to use.
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> URL:  http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/runstats.html
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> I've attached my versions of the scripts for your convenience.
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> You can use these to easily compare unindexed vs indexed
> reads on small tables, indexed vs IOT, etc.
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> Thanks Jared,
> What if my developer is selecting all or most of the records from the
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> table and not all the columns in the select list are in the index
> that
> should have been used?
> I understand your point, in fact to use Jonathan's words .. "should a
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> small lookup table BE an index (IOT)?" ... I am testing this approach
> here
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> and have found some performance benefit out of it.
> Cheers
> Raj
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> Raj,
> Indexing small tables is a good thing if you are doing single row
> lookups.
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> An index read and lookup by rowid is much more scalable than
> doing an  FTS, even if the table is only 2 blocks.
> Jared
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>  Runstats.sql This is the test harness I use to try out different
> ideas. It
> shows two vital sets of statistics for me The elapsed time difference
> between
> two approaches. It very simply shows me which approach is faster by
> the wall
> clock How many resources each approach takes. This can be more
> meaningful then
> even the wall clock timings. For example, if one approach is faster
> then the
> other but it takes thousands of latches (locks), I might avoid it
> simply
> because it will not scale as well. The way this test harness works is
> by saving
> the system statistics and latch information into a temporary table.
> We then run
> a test and take another snapshot. We run the second test and take yet
> another
> snapshot. Now we can show the amount of resources used by approach 1
> and
> approach 2.
>
> Requirements
>
> In order to run this test harness you must at a minimum have: Access
> to
> V$STATNAME, V$MYSTAT, and V$LATCH If you want to use the view as I
> have, you
> must be granted select DIRECTLY on SYS.V_$STATNAME, SYS.V_$MYSTAT,
> and
> SYS.V_$LATCH. It will not work to have select on these via a ROLE.
> You can
> still run the test harness, you just will not be using the view
> "STATS" I have
> below (substitute in the query text in the PLSQL block where I
> reference the
> view STATS). The ability to create a table -- run_stats -- to hold
> the before,
> during and after information. You should note also that the LATCH
> information
> is collected on a SYSTEM WIDE basis. If you run this on a multi-user
> system,
> the latch information may be technically "incorrect" as you will
> count the
> latching information for other sessions - not just your session. This
> test
> harness works best in a simple, controlled test environment.
>
>  The table we need is very simple:
> create table run_stats
> ( runid varchar2(15),
>   name  varchar2(80),
>   value int
> );
>  and if you can get direct grants on the V$ tables necessary (or have
> your DBA
> create this view and grant SELECT on it to you), you can create this
> view:
> create or replace view stats
> as select 'STAT...' || a.name name, b.value
>       from v$statname a, v$mystat b
>      where a.statistic# = b.statistic#
>     union all
>     select 'LATCH.' || name,  gets
>       from v$latch;
>  Now the test harness itself is very simple. Here it is:
>
> declare
>     l_start number;
>     add any other variables you need here for the test...
> begin
>     delete from run_stats;
>     commit;
>     -- start by getting a snapshot of the v$ tables
>     insert into run_stats select 'before', stats.* from stats;
>
>     -- and start timing...
>     l_start := dbms_utility.get_time;
>
>     -- for things that take a very small amount of time, I like to
>     -- loop over it time and time again, to measure something "big"
>     -- if what you are testing takes a long time, loop less or maybe
>     -- not at all
>     for i in 1 .. 1000
>     loop
>         -- your code here for approach #1
>     end loop;
>
>     dbms_output.put_line( (dbms_utility.get_time-l_start) || ' hsecs'
> );
>
>     -- get another snapshot and start timing again...
>     insert into run_stats select 'after 1', stats.* from stats;
>
>     l_start := dbms_utility.get_time;
>
>     for i in 1 .. 1000
>     loop
>         -- your code here for approach #2
>     end loop;
>
>     dbms_output.put_line( (dbms_utility.get_time-l_start) || ' hsecs'
> );
>     insert into run_stats select 'after 2', stats.* from stats;
> end;
> /
>  and thats it, now after that block runs, you'll see the wall clock
> difference
> between the two approaches. You can see the really important stuff
> using this
> query:
> select a.name, b.value-a.value run1, c.value-b.value run2,
>        ( (c.value-b.value)-(b.value-a.value)) diff
>   from run_stats a, run_stats b, run_stats c
>  where a.name = b.name
>    and b.name = c.name
>    and a.runid = 'before'
>    and b.runid = 'after 1'
>    and c.runid = 'after 2'
>    and (c.value-a.value) > 0
>    and (c.value-b.value) <> (b.value-a.value)
>  order by abs( (c.value-b.value)-(b.value-a.value))
> /
>
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