I just got a call from the S/A that the copy completed.  After looking back
at Spotlight I asked "At 1:00, right?".  Sure enough.  So at least that
part's solved.  As to why/how it started the same time as the DBMS_JOB?  I'm
willing to let that be a mystery pondered on over beers for years and years.

Thx!
Rich

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: Jesse, Rich; ''Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ' '
> Subject: RE: What can cause boost in LIO/PIO?
> 
> 
>  makes sence to me... I've seen an analyze, if it takes a 
> long time to run,
> cause odd things to happen to SQL that starts running in the 
> middle of the
> analyze process.
> 
> The SAN rebuild certainly sounds like a likley suspect.
> 
> RF
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse, Rich
> To: Jesse, Rich; Freeman Robert - IL; 'Multiple recipients of 
> list ORACLE-L
> '
> Sent: 6/20/2003 12:52 PM
> Subject: RE: What can cause boost in LIO/PIO?
> 
> [deft backpedaling]
> 
> OK, now I think it IS the SAN.  The S/A handling the SAN is helping us
> with
> our backup scenario so he's reorganizing some drives on the SAN.  At
> about
> the same time he started the reorg (highly drive-intensive), my
> aggregate
> PIO rate dropped from almost 10K/s to less than 2K/s.  And the LIOs
> dropped
> similarly, while the event waits increased.
> 
> I'm thinking that the impact of the reorg on the SAN caused the wait
> events
> for the PIOs to grow (from 3.5K/s to 4.7K/s).  This longer 
> wait in turn
> caused a decrease in LIOs because the processes are too busy 
> waiting to
> generate the IO requests.
> 
> This explains everything except that the lack of contention 
> to cause the
> IOs
> to boost in the first place happened at the same time as the first run
> of
> the DBMS_JOB at 5:00 AM.  Coincidence?
> 
> How's that sound?
> 
> Rich
> 
> Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jesse, Rich 
> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:32 PM
> > To: 'Freeman Robert - IL'; 'Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L '
> > Subject: RE: What can cause boost in LIO/PIO?
> > 
> > 
> > Only in part.  It's an hourly complete rebuild of a 
> > mini-warehouse table (don't ask -- not my idea).  It does do 
> > a few index creates and accompanying analyzes of those 
> > indexes and their table at the end of the procedure.  I think 
> > this accounts for the very high PIO spikes at the end of 
> > every DBMS_JOB cycle, but I'm still not sure how it affected 
> > the other queries.
> > 
> > Thx!
> > Rich
> > 
> > Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Freeman Robert - IL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:06 AM
> > > To: Jesse, Rich; 'Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L '
> > > Subject: RE: What can cause boost in LIO/PIO?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What was this 5am job? It wasn't an analyze was it?
> > > 
> > > RF 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesse, Rich
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Sent: 6/20/2003 11:29 AM
> > > Subject: What can cause boost in LIO/PIO?
> > > 
> > > Hey all,
> > > 
> > > I'm testing out the max I/O thruput of an IBM FastT900 
> using a dual
> > > 2.4GHz
> > > w/1GB RAM on Win2K server (not my choice but it's just 
> for testing)
> > > running
> > > Oracle 8.1.7.  For one of my tests, I created the following 
> > > heirarchical
> > > query:
> > > 
> > > [yadda yadda yadda]
> > 
> 
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