TANEL,
A wonderful demonstration  !!!

we are already using the Java connection pool, DO you think we still have to use MTS 
?? or which is better ??


Dennis,
We really have a big beast ( 1.2T OLTP ) here in terms of hardware resources. Its not 
the problem with memory or CPU or I/O.

John, Thanks for reply, as you pointed more # of files is big problem, but we already 
tried to minimize it , 

What is your point on Java connection pooling (VS) MTS ???

Any pointers will be appreciated !!


Thanks,

Madhu Reddy
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Hi!



I think you should go with some sort of connection pooling and/or MTS.



> My main question to you all is : Is there any way to reduce the # of open
files opened by Oracle processes ??



The issue is, that with dedicated server every process has to open a
datafile if it tries to read a data block which isn't already in buffer
cache. If you got let say 1000 connections with dedicated servers (thus 1000
server processes) and 500 datafiles, the worst case is 500 000 used file
handlers. Of course, this is really the worst case, when every process has
had to read a block from every file.



When going with MTS, you actually have 50 or so processes to serve all 1000
of your connections, thus the need for file handlers is lot smaller. (I
think that in Windows going with dedicated servers isn't a procblem, because
it's single process architecture - threads can share file handlers between
each other, right?)



I wrote this mail in html, because I added my testing about datafiles with
comments here.



Cheers,

Tanel.



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bash-2.03$ uname -a

SunOS blade.nt 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100



bash-2.03$ sqlplus system/[EMAIL PROTECTED]



SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Wed Jun 25 21:35:04 2003



(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.





Connected to:

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production



First, lets check whether I'm using a dedicated server (MTS's can have files
open as a result of other sessions request). Also finding the OS PID to
compare with fuser result later on.



SQL> select server from v$session where sid = (select sid from v$mystat
where rownum = 1);



SERVER

---------

DEDICATED



SQL> select p.spid

from v$process p, v$session s

where s.sid = (select sid from v$mystat where rownum = 1)

and p.addr = s.paddr;

  2    3    4

SPID

---------

29064  -- note my OS PID for this session



Now create a tablespace and a table for testing



SQL> create tablespace test2 datafile '/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf'
size 1m autoextend off;



Tablespace created.



SQL> create table t (a number) tablespace test2;



Table created.



SQL> insert into t values (1);



1 row created.



SQL> commit;



Commit complete.



Now check with fuser, which processes are holding the datafile open



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:    29064o     390o



My process is there, because I just created the tablespace

Now I take the tablespace offline/online, to make sure it's blocks in buffer
cache are invalidated



SQL> alter tablespace test2 offline;



Tablespace altered.



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:



SQL> alter tablespace test2 online;



Tablespace altered.



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:    29064o     390o



And exit and log on again, to get a new OS process id for example



SQL> exit

Disconnected from Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

bash-2.03$ sqlplus system/[EMAIL PROTECTED]



SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Wed Jun 25 21:39:10 2003



(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.





Connected to:

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production



SQL> select server from v$session where sid = (select sid from v$mystat
where rownum = 1);



SERVER

---------

DEDICATED



SQL> select p.spid

from v$process p, v$session s

where s.sid = (select sid from v$mystat where rownum = 1)

and p.addr = s.paddr;

  2    3    4

SPID

---------

29070 -- new OS PID for my connection



I havent done anything in this session, let's see who have the datafile open



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:      390o



Wonder who is it?



SQL> !ps -ef | grep 390

  ora817   390     1  0   Dec 19 ?        1:18 ora_dbw0_TEST817

  ora817 29072 29068  0 21:39:44 pts/3    0:00 /bin/bash -c ps -ef | grep
390

  ora817 29074 29072  0 21:39:44 pts/3    0:00 /bin/bash -c ps -ef | grep
390



Now do a select from table in my tablespace (it's not buffered because I
took tablespace offline/online)



SQL> select * from t;



         A

----------

         1



Let's see who has opened the file



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:    29070o     390o



Now I'll log off to see whether the file remains opened



SQL> exit

Disconnected from Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production



bash-2.03$ /usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:      390o



Of course it doesn't, because when exiting, my server process also dies
(along with it's file handlers). But DBWR still has it open



bash-2.03$ sqlplus system/[EMAIL PROTECTED]



SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Wed Jun 25 21:41:04 2003



(c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.





Connected to:

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production



Another try



SQL> select server from v$session where sid = (select sid from v$mystat
where rownum = 1);



SERVER

---------

DEDICATED



SQL> select p.spid

from v$process p, v$session s

where s.sid = (select sid from v$mystat where rownum = 1)

and p.addr = s.paddr;

  2    3    4

SPID

---------

29079

I logged on, let's see if my session automatically opens the file



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:      390o



No, since I haven't done any (unbuffered) reads from this file.

But let's try to read:



SQL> select * from t;



         A

----------

         1



SQL> !/usr/sbin/fuser /u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf

/u01/oradata/TEST817/test2_01.dbf:      390o



Still nothing, because the blocks are in buffer cache, thus nothing to be
read from file itself



SQL> exit

Disconnected from Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production

With the Partitioning option

JServer Release 8.1.7.1.0 - Production



bash-2.03$ uname -a

SunOS blade.nt 5.8 Generic_108528-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100

bash-2.03$



By the way, additional processes such are CKPT and SMON will open the file
on their time.



Happy experimenting! :)


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