I work for quest so obviously my recommendation should be taken with a grain of salt 
but Qdesigner is available for trial download and the purchase price can be seen 
online.
http://quest.com/qdesigner/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: lundi, 7. juillet 2003 12:29
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: ER Tools (was: erwin)
> 
> 
> Anyone care to ballpark a $$$ on the registered version of ERwin?  I'm
> guessing it's expensive, and Computer ASSociates doesn't 
> exactly trip my
> trigger.
> 
> I'm trying to find a low-cost ER tool in order to get some simple data
> modeling done.  So far, this is what I've found (VERY briefly):
> 
> 1)  Visio.  Needs Enterprise edition.  The UI is a pain, as far as I'm
> concerned.  Pain, pain, pain.  Cheapest viable option so far 
> at less than
> $500/user.  It can be used for more than just data modeling.
> 
> 2)  Oracle 9iDS.  Hugely bloated.  Relies on a 3GB (minimum) 
> repository for
> some stupid reason.  Apparently can't buy just Designer, 
> which is all we
> need.  Difficult to get started (concepts and management of workspace,
> container).  Slow on a 2.4Ghz PC w/512MB RAM, although this 
> may be due to me
> having to create the [EMAIL PROTECTED] repository DB on the same PC.  Very
> comprehensive, though, from what I've seen.  Can't access 
> drawings from the
> OS, since they're (probably) in the repository.
> 
> 3)  No freeware tools such as dia, VisioModeler (pre-MS 
> version of Visio),
> OpenOffice, or Koffice seemed to be able to draw crow's foot diagrams.
> 
> 4)  Sybase PowerBuilder.  Didn't check out the download yet, 
> although a demo
> of an older version (v6) seems like it would work.  Not impressed with
> Sybase in general and it's probably in the $1Ks/user.
> 
> 5)  Data Architect from TheKompany.com only does physical 
> modelling and
> their Kivio product doesn't seem to support crow's foot.
> 
> 6)  DeZign from datanamic.com.  Haven't downloaded the demo 
> yet, but the
> single screenshot looks promising.  And at $149/user or 
> $119/user for 10
> licenses, I'm hoping...
> 
> I've been looking thru past messages found on orafaq.com 
> (better searching
> than fatcity.com) and this is the majority of what I've been 
> able to find.
> Anyone have more to add?
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