John,

        True, but the whole purpose is to get rid of those damned TNSNAMES.ora files 
in the first place.  I don't know about you, but the fun to tracing why a end user 
can't get to the database because he has his own alias to the database buried in a 
TNSNAMES.ora file is a real PAIN.  BTW: I tried the TNS_ADMIN setting in the registry 
only to have it ignored.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Jesse,

You could always get around this problem by obtaining an upto date
TNSNAMES.ORA on any Names-aware client using the 'namesctl dump_tnsnames'
command that will create/update the tnsnames.ora with the entries from Names
servers. I would suggest renaming the original tnsnames.ora _just_ before
doing this, and having some script check the sizes of the created file (just
in case). 

John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

What would you see if you were allowed to look back at your life at the end
of your journey in this earth?

** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not those of my
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse, Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:25 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, it's not just a problem with this product.  Some Oracle
> products like OEM can incorrectly populate TNSNAMES.ORA "for 
> you" because of
> course that's always the best thing to do (and isn't there 
> another Oracle
> product that requires it or am I confusing that with the 
> semi-Intelligent
> Agent's requirement of a LISTENER.ORA?).
> 
> And Quest's QCO will largely not work correctly in v2.4 (and 
> to some extent
> in 2.5) without a correctly populated TNSNAMES.ORA (sorry 
> Jacques!).  I went
> around and around with Quest Support as to why this is 
> incorrect and why I
> refuse to manually populate a TNSNAMES.ORA on some or all clients.
> Supposedly, it'll be fixed in v3.
> 
> Desperately trying to get rid of all TNSNAMES.ORAs on all 
> non-DBA boxes...
> 
> 
> Rich
> 
> Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goulet, Dick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: MicroSlop DTC
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, as well as SQL*Plus and ODBCTST.
> > 
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:59 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hum, does tnsping resolve the service correctly?
> > 
> > Ron Thomas
> >
> > 9.2.0.1.0  On Win 2K.
> > 
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:54 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen this happen with older versions of the sqlnet 
> > client (Different application, same
> > symptom).  What version of the client are you using?
> > 
> > Ron Thomas
> > Hypercom, Inc
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. 
> > -- Kernighan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > To All, especially any WEB developers out there.
> > 
> >              We've a WEB based application that uses MS DTC.  
> > OK, so we turned on XA in the
> > database, but the web servers do not want to play with our 
> > normal ONmase setup.  Instead they only
> > want to work with a TNSNAMES.ORA file in the appriopriate 
> > place.  I've been all over MicroSlop
> > Technet and Metalink as well as  several other IIS sites with 
> > no results.  Therefore anyone know why
> > this is??
> > 
> > Dick Goulet
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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