WOW! Those are some good stories to keep in mind... And some folks wonder why techies like working with computers more than working with people. ;-)
Trying to be wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove... -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L my 2� is it all depends on who you are. A few good ones I'm aware of. Confessors within the last 9 months, I know of one company where a DBA (unknown to mgt.) inadvertently dropped something and was able to fix it within a few minutes. I'm not sure if anyone other than operations noticed. Mgt. response: his mistake would be recognized on his yearly bonus. A couple months later at the same company, a well known DBA (one of the boys) brought down the web database for a couple of hours. Nothing was said. Mgt. response "We all make mistakes. Be more careful". Cowards A few years earlier at the same company, I remember a DBA who was doing maintenance and messed up. He never confessed to creating the problem, but did take credit for fixing it. Mgt. response: he was awarded a certificate for "Going the Extra Mile"... :) Steve ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:34 PM > I've only made one mistake in my life and that was the time when I > thought I was wrong. ;-) > > OK, getting serious... I've found it's best to QUICKLY be 100% > truthful. If you get crucified for it then it may be that damagement > needs to lighten up. Unfortunately the fear of damagement causes wheel > spinning work-arounds to compromises of the facts. ;-) > > I once inadvertently brought a 24X7 production system down by shutting > down a test database that was "managed" by Veritas Cluster Server > junk. A hands on type director had added it to the cluster without > telling me so when I shut down the test database the cluster stuff > tried to fail over and everything came crashing down. I got the blame > so it was a real "cluster-f***" because the damager wouldn't accept > any responsibility for this episode. Later he decided to change some > Unix stuff all on his own and the result was that the system was down > quite some time. He as rather cavalier about the outage and danced > around the truth. Ultimately his prevarications caught up with him and > he was "dismissed" on the spot. "Justice" was served. > > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Importance: High > > > I always admit when I make a mistake. Gives me much more credibility > when I say "this time it ISN'T me" > > > --- "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I prefer my bosses attitude on the subject of mistakes: > > > > Admit that you did it & then go fix it. We'll crucify you > later, if > > we have the time. > > > > For some reason, known only to the Devil himself, they never find > > the time. > > > > Dick Goulet > > Senior Oracle DBA > > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:14 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > This reminds of watching the Indy 500 a couple of years ago. > > > > One of the drivers managed to spin in turn 4 of the first lap of the > > race, and subsequently was unable to finish the race. > > > > Before continuing, you need to know that when in a corner, one thing > > you should *never* do is take your foot off of the gas pedal. > > > > The resulting weight transfer will greatly reduce the amount of > > weight on the rear tires, and could easily cause you to spin. > > > > Back to the story: The driver was interviewed shortly afterward in > > the pits, and put the blame squarely on the car. "It was something > > with the car". > > > > Technology in the form of an onboard camera told another story. He > > let off the gas twice in turn 4. The first time the rear of the car > > squirmed a bit and he recovered. The second time it sounded like he > > completely released the accelerator, and the spin came shortly > > afterwards. > > > > He could have been a smart guy too, if he had remembered the camera. > > > > Too bad there wasn't a camera on the smart guys at Orbitz, maybe it > > would tell a different story. ;) > > > > None of us are immune to making mistakes, and about the time you > > start feeling invincible, watch out. > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 07/18/2003 09:44 AM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject: RE: Recent reports on outages caused by DB2 > > and 9iRAC issues > > > > > > Interesting quote in eWeek. 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