A 14-drive RAID-5 set is very large.  It's certainly functional, but the
two problems you'll run into is problems with spindle contention and
rebuild times.  With a 14-drive set, your drive is getting cut into 14
columns, so that there's 14 different disk regions per drive it might
have to seek to in order to service any given I/O.  That can negatively
impact performance on random writes. Have you tested failing out a drive
under load?  On a 14-drive set the rebuild time is going to be pretty
horrendous, and your performance will likely be impacted unless your
cache hit numbers are really great.

The other problem is that by carving luns globally out of a single
RAID-5 set, differing i/o patterns on the luns can create hot spots much
more easily, since your small (comparatively, anyway) redo log volume
(for exmaple) ends up on only four columns of the disks, and other
volumes on other columns on those disks can be hurt by the constant
writing.  

While I'm not necessarily as anti-RAID 5 as some (though I give all due
respect and worship to our mighty BAARF leaders), you need to keep a
very close eye on your array in this configuration.  If you have a
normal OLTP workload (whatever "normal" is), play with your cache
allocations - the read v. write cache, and if you can do per-lun
tweaking, weight the redo and archive log lun(s) very heavily towards
write cache. 

If you're set on RAID-5, I would recommend taking two of the disks and
making them a mirrored pair for redo and archive logs.  Since the writes
tend to be reasonably contiguous, the fact you're hitting just one set
of spindles shouldn't hurt quite as bad, and cache should take the edge
off a bit.  

This all being said, my knowledge of that particular HP array is limited
at best, so I can't offer vendor-specific recommendations/thoughts that
might invalidate some of these concerns.  Good luck.

Thanks,
Matt

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> Dear Listers,
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> I'm looking for advice on configuring Oracle under a SAN.  We 
> just got a new box, an HP UX, with an HP CASA that's 
> connected to an HP MSA1000 with fourteen 72gb drives 
> configured as RAID-5 with Advanced Data Guard, and two global 
> hot spares on that drive shelf.  All of this is connected to 
> the HP through two-gb fiber channel host bus adapters.  So 
> far, four 75 gb LUNs have been created so that the primary 
> path to the CASA is shared between the two HBAs, providing 
> some load balance between the LUNs -- LUN1 & LUN3 on HBA, 
> LUN2 & LUN4 on the other.
> 
> Given, this, are there any recommendations for Oracle's 
> configuration? Control file, redo placement? Maybe indexes 
> and data placement don't mean as much any more, but files for 
> recovery should be treated in a different manner.
> 
> Any insights or experience would be helpful.  Most of the 
> information that I've found is marketing, and a description 
> of what SANs are.  I'm looking for recommendations for Oracle 
> configuration.  Everything I find on OTN sends me to the 
> vendor, but the vendor doesn't have anything specific to Oracle.
> 
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