I remember creating a distributed Oracle driven Order entry system
on DOS 4.1.0 running on IBM AT boxes and a Vax 750. I also wrote
a dialing VAX program that would dial the PCs up, and down load their
data WAY before sqlnet. That data was brought into the VAX, separated,
sent to a mainframe for pricing, came back, sorted and distributed
and sent back to the branches(from CT to CA)and it was ready for
them the next morning. It used import/export a "basic" listening
program a VAX file transfer with a pc hook, and could be programmed
with an "ini" file of sorts for start time, end time, number of
retries, etc. It was quite slick.

If an AT died, they had a new one within 1-2 days and it was synced
in the night they set it up. We could have a "blank" set up and
loaded with cust data in about 3-4 hours and out the door.

We also had to contend that orders cut in CT could be shipped from
VA, which means CT gets an ack, and VA got shipping.

The Order entry, being DOS, had to be done just so, query this,
then do this, there's the normal products, pick the quantities,
submit. When done right, it worked GOOD... Oracle even did a write
up for it. That was back when Ken Jacobs still made site visits.
He vaguely remembers me, poor fellow.

I had several suggestions back then that they incorporated into
what I think was the later Version 4 and 5 databases.. and they
took a copy of my problem tracking system I ran there. They were
impressed I had a database report of all problems and it also
tracked those I fixed before Oracle did.

Ah, the good old days when everything was still KISS.

I started on an IBM 360/40 running DOS, BOS, and TOS, and
POWER... Demand Deposits posting was about 2-4 boxes of
punched cards. Of course that was 1971.

Maks.

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SQLPME was a program to load Oracle into extended memory on the 386 PC, if
memory serves me correctly.  I am over 40 and I have been dealing with
relational databases for a little over 19 years.  I remember punch cards,
Rbase, the first IBM PCs, Oracle Forms 2, Oracle v4.5 and 5, etc.  I have
been dealing with Oracle databases for about 16 years as developer and DBA.
(Yeesh I am starting to feel old)  I am not the oldest DBA here, but I seem
to have the most experience. I don't have the most hair (I keep it shaved
off.) .   I haven't met a database that I couldn't crash or a customer's
vapor backup plan that worked the first time.


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I  remember UFI, RPT-RPF, Forms 2.0 (IAD-IAG-IAP), SQL-QMX (for what it
last),ODL  (Oracle Data Loader), but I do not remember SQLPME . What was it


Stephane Paquette

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Wow,  I remember UFI, iapgen and RPT/RPF, but I started in 1989. Do you
remember  SQLPME?


Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
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Let's see... I remember dirt.. I remember  UFI>.
I  remember version 4.1.0 that ran on DOS... PC, PC-XT..
Oracle since 1983...

Good loaded question.

Maks.
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Goulet,  Dick
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 12:09 PM
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Now that's a LOADED question which I'm sure many a individual on  this list
will resist answering.


Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i  DBA
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Now this one is difficult folks

what is average age of an experienced  oracle dba ?

-ak



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