Our Prod SAP system has 4 RAID1's dedicated to redo of 500m each
on an Clariion CX600 SAN.

Several groups with 2 members each.  That's 600 gig
of physical disk dedicated to redo, and nothing else.

Jared


On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 04:59, Boivin, Patrice J wrote:
> We use a SAN.
> 
> Where does that leave me?
> 
> : )
> 
> Patrice.
> 
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> 
> I'm constantly amazed (and relieved!) that there's disagreement on the
> most fundamental principles.
> 
> First, I found myself nodding at Roy's first post.  On some databases,
> I have three log groups, with two members each.  Each set of members
> has its own disk.  I'll concede the argument that the instance goes
> down right away if one of the drives fails, but I _still_ have a full
> set of logs on the other drive, and that's a good thing, right?
> 
> Second, if I have three groups of two members each and follow what
> seems to be the consensus opinion, I have three drives, each holding
> two members, one from each group.  In this case, aren't the two members
> on the same drive identical?  If I lose that drive, I lose that entire
> log group, and therefore no longer have a full set of logs--so what's
> the point of having two copies?  I also lose the instance immediately
> if that group happens to be the current group at the time of disk
> failure.
> 
> Third, while I agree that every member of every group should ideally
> have its own disk, does ANYONE actually configure their DB this way?  I
> had a hard enough time dedicating one or two disks to redo logs; who
> can dedicate eight, especially given drive sizes of 72+ GB and (single)
> log file sizes of, what, 100 MB?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Pardee, Roy E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yep, that's right--I had it wrong.  You need to have at least one
> > member from each group in order to do a full recovery.  I see now
> > from my trusty dba fundamentals I class text that each member of a
> > group is identical (or is supposed to be).
> > 
> > So I guess I'll go back to being confused about why the answer to the
> > question below is 2.  I guess 2 is the minimum required to survive a
> > single disk failure?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > -Roy
> > 
> > Roy Pardee
> > Programmer/Analyst/DBA
> > SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
> > Extension 8487
> 
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