> Of course it would make complete sense to give DBA's an option like > "immediate" on such commands.
you do recall the oxymoron: common sense Oracle :) --- Mark Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is very easily explained once you consider that a "transaction" > can > consist of many "statements" - some of which may not have been issued > to > Oracle at this point in time. Oracle is obviously trying to be > polite by > allowing already started transactions to complete. > > Of course it would make complete sense to give DBA's an option like > "immediate" on such commands. > > Regards, > Mark. > > > > > > Rachel Carmichael > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple > recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > o.com> cc: > > Sent by: Subject: Re: read > only tablespace > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > .com > > > > > > 01/08/2003 02:09 > > Please respond to > > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > What we found is that it doesn't matter which tablespace the session > causing the wait is accessing. As explained to me (by Dan Fink I > believe), Oracle doesn't KNOW if that transaction will involve the > tablespace you are trying to make read-only or if it will not. So > rather than take a chance, the alter tablespace waits for all > transactions executing at the time it was issued to complete. > > > --- AK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rachel , > > Thanks for the Reply . On checking further I found that this > session > > was > > waiting on a lock from another session . But the table or object > > which was > > locked by other session does not belong to this tablespace . Then > why > > does > > the read only operation waiting for the lock to release ?? Does it > > mean > > that all transactions which started before issuing "alter > tablespace > > read > > only" should be finished ?? > > > > -ak > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 5:44 PM > > > > > > > Ah, one I have the answer to, as I had a similar question a while > > back. > > > > > > The alter tablespace read only is waiting for every query which > > started > > > before the alter tablespace was issued to finish. Just in case > one > > of > > > them might write to that tablespace and therefore fail. > > > > > > so while the database does not HAVE to be quiesced before you > issue > > an > > > alter tablespace read only, it helps to prevent waits > > > > > > > > > --- Tanel Poder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > Alter tablespace read only performs checkpoint on datafiles > > belonging > > > > to this tablespace. But 10 minutes on an idle system is > > indicating > > > > some problems. > > > > > > > > Check this: select event, p1, p2, p3, state from v$session_wait > > where > > > > sid = <sid of waiting session>; > > > > > > > > You should get some indication, on what your alter tablespace > > command > > > > is waiting. > > > > > > > > Tanel. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: AK > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:34 PM > > > > Subject: read only tablespace > > > > > > > > > > > > why does it take long time to turn a tablespace read only . I > > > > issued the command 10 mins back , its still not returned . > There > > is > > > > almost no activity in db . > > > > > > > > 8.1.7.4 > > > > hp-ux > > > > > > > > -ak > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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