Let me guess: MCI-Worldcom, Global Crossing or Enron? -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA
-----Original Message----- Jesse, Rich Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I know of one Fortune 50 company (US) that has a local division that has fired all of their programmers at least at that location. All's done in India with e-mail, web, and teleconfrencing. Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: OT -- Boston Globe job listings > > > Ken, > > With the amount of companies I talk to (in a sales-critter > role) you would > actually be surprised at how many people ARE doing exactly this! > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > KENNETH JANUSZ > Sent: 14 August 2003 16:45 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Dennis: > > With respect to sending production DBA positions to India, et > al. I don't > think companies are very included to do this because of > security concerns > and the confidentiality of the information stored in the DB. > It's not a > good idea to open your DB's to the entire world. > > Ken > > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:24 AM > > > > Ken - Since you've recently changed jobs, your upbeat attitude is > > encouraging. I think you've made a good point that jobs > aren't always > > advertised. Another point is that when there are more jobs > than available > > candidates, companies have to advertise strongly to fill > their positions. > > When there are more candidates than available jobs, > companies often find > > that people are seeking out the opening before they post it. > > > > Patrice - Look at what happened over the previous years. In 1999 > > corporations spent wildly on I.T. (naturally when the > catastrophe didn't > > occur because of the tireless efforts of I.T. people, the senior > executives > > felt the money was wasted). Then when spending would have naturally > > declined, the dot-com madness stuck and things went wild. I > think we are > > just about to come out of the natural down cycle due to the > extravagant > > dot-com spending. But now I keep seeing articles about how much > development > > work is being sent overseas. Has anyone seen that affect > Oracle DBA work > > yet? > > > > Dennis Williams > > DBA > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:14 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > I don't think it has as much to do with no available > positions (although > > that is part of the answer) as most medium to large > companies don't use > > newspaper ads anymore. They are using the internet (especially for > > technical jobs) and are signed up with Monster, BrassRing, > etc. to do > their > > recruiting for them from their own company web sites. I've > seen this > > definite shift here in the Minneapolis / St. Paul, MN area > over the past > > couple of years. Most of these companies also provide > e-mail service that > > sends you an email when a job is posted that meets your > specs. So, why > > waste your time on newspaper ads that only appear every Sunday? > > > > My $0.02 worth, > > > > Ken Janusz, CPIM > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 6:34 AM > > > > > > > I've been keeping an eye on the Boston Globe's Oracle DBA > job postings, > > two > > > years ago it wasn't uncommon to see eight or more per > week, now I tend > to > > > see one or two, or none. > > > > > > For a while they also announced big IT job fairs, I don't > know if they > > still > > > do that or how successful they now are. > > > > > > The market has really shrunk in two years! > > > > > > There can't be a huge glut of DBAs out there looking for > work... It > must > > be > > > a reduction in demand because companies are not making big > infrastructure > > > changes anymore. > > > > > > Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -------------------------------------------------------- Note: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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