Political problems are best solved by hiring action move stars with
abominable
accents and a lot of muscle. In other words, the company should hire a
terminator
to deal with the bad guys. Hasta la vista, baby!

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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



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Then you have a political problem, not a technical one.

This is plenty common. In my opinion, you'll aggravate yourself to death
before you'll successfully solve a political problem with a technical
solution.

I have total faith in the technical solution that Dan suggested, but you
won't be able to implement it until you fix the real problem.
 

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all i usually get is 'the application is slow' 

i cant get more out of them than that. its in acceptance testing so i often
get that from the customer. they are offsite and i dont have direct contact
with them. 

so i cant run traces on individual sessions. Further when the database runs
slow they stop what they are doing. So it makes it harder. Im not that
familiar with the v$wait and v$statistics views. I was hoping there are some
queries so i can gather my own stats. 
> 
> From: Daniel Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/08/18 Mon PM 03:44:25 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: tuning question when you have a 3GL application
> 
> 10046, and only 10046. There are many ways to set this event, even in
another session. It is the method for identifying the exact
> problem. Statspack and queries on v$ views have their own shortcomings
that make them inefficient for use in identifying specific
> problems.
> 
> Get the SE team to identify what is slow, when it is slow. If they can
repeat it, run a test with 10046 enabled. That WILL identify
> the cause of the response time degradation.
> 
> Daniel Fink
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > We have two teams. Database team and a Software engineering team.
The software engineering team wrote an application in .net.
> > 
> > We periodically get 'the application is slow' from them. I have not
gotten the ok to run statspack in production.
> > 
> > Are there any canned scripts I can run to monitor the v$views or
latch contention etc... It may not be the database, but I need some metrics.
> > 
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