Sobig -F does carry out spoofing , but Jared here is a question : either which way (spoofed or not) wouldn't list-guru remove all attached binaries ? Anyway I am not going to open any such mails.
----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 23:25 > Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it. > > From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there. > > That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus. > > That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those. > > A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is > found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC > running Outlook. > > As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened. > > Jared > > > > > > > "Dilip Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 08/25/2003 10:14 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: > Subject: Hey Jared > > > Jared, > Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line. > > It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to > > make sure before i open it. > > Thanks. > > > >From: Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800 > > > > > >Here's a perfect example of an email that should > >never have been sent. > > > >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days. > > > >This does not characterize the people I work for, > >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do > >understand technology. > > > >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past > >experiences. > > > >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'. > > > >Jared > > > >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote: > > > Mladen, > > > > > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood. > > > > > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in? > > > > > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds. > > > > > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit > > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't. > > > > > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I > > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult. > > > > > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all > > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it. > > > > > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism, > > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me > > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for. > > > > > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are, > > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope > > > to understand. > > > > > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop > > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has > > > finally learned how to use google. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote: > > > > > > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which > > >had > > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all > of > >them and > > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of > >building them > > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the > >lines of "if > > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it > > >certainly > > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful > >comment > > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his > >CIO/CFO > > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has > >expedited > > > > > his prediction... > > > > > > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer > geeks > >(my > > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core > > >computer > > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to > >understand. > > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly > willing > >to > > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the > >company. > > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at > several > > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if > >lawyers > > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database > >administrators, > > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the > switch. > > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to > kill > > > > a nice and seet little wabbit? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mladen Gogala > > > > Oracle DBA > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > -- > > > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Jared Still > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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