Much as I would like to claim credit, that's the wrong Pete you have
there.  :)


Pete

"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook

"Oh no, it's not.  It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.



-----Original Message-----
Jared Still
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:14 AM
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The security model of Oracle on both unix and Windows
precludes any ability to prevent access to the database
by a knowledgeable user with root or admin access.

Pete Sharman could no doubt go into some detail here.

I bought his security book, I'll check it out when I get to work.

Could be there's something I've overlooked.  :)

Jared

On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 09:29, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
> Walter
>    You may be able to approach this from a security aspect. You could 
> discuss with your management whether it is a good idea for the system 
> administrators to be in a database. Depending on the security or SLA 
> requirements of the database, you may have some leverage there.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA 
> Lifetouch, Inc. 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Well, first of all, root should not be in your dba group...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> Just for grins, I'll ask this question... Is there any way to keep the

> Unix "root" user from logging into the database (i.e. connect internal

> or / as sysdba)? Currently using 8.1.7.4 on Solaris 8 here.
>  
> We have a couple people in our Unix admin group that feel the need to 
> "help" by writing their own DB monitoring scripts. Of course, they 
> don't know what they're talking about. They do not have formal logins 
> for the database, but since they are root users they are connecting 
> via "connect internal". This is not only counterproductive but 
> actually a potential security issue--just because someone has root 
> doesn't necessarily entitle them to see the data in the database. What

> if it is a payroll database?
>  
> So, I'm curious, is there any way to prevent access via "connect 
> internal" or "/ as sysdba"?
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> W
> 
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