Mike, it's always about the money. Unfortunately, I notice that Oracle Corp. is getting greedier and greedier. Bugs are more and more numerous and versions are released at such rapid pace that it is extremely hard an expensive to keep up the pace. Of course, Oracle would like to get some additional cash while we do that, so, voila, we have certification programs. I judge those programs by whether they're actually helpful to me or not. As for the masters program, I'm not really sure. I know that Cary Millsap, Scott Gosset Jr., Scott Heisey, Tom Kyte, Steve Adams, Jonathan Lewis, Wolfgang Breitling and a few of other folks are masters, and I'm not sure that anyone of them has a master certificate. This is a starter only, but when the brand name sets in and the program gets handed to Thompson Learning to make it into an actual cash cow, it will be no different then OCP: raise you hands where I can see them and gimme all your cash, slowly. I actually bought a book about Postgress and I believe that's the next big thing. Oracle Corp. wants a cut in every business opportunity they present. The cutthroat move with PeopleSoft didn't do much to improve their image. I don't know whether there will be much left for me in the near future.
-- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG) Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The masters seems a far better test of ability than OCP. Unfortunately Oracle have attached the spurious "must attend 2 Oracle classes" clause which makes it obvious that the whole program is just another revenue channel. I've considered signing up for it but I baulk at the idea of handing over my hard-earned cash for courses that I could teach just so I can qualify to take the test. <seethe> Mike -----Original Message----- Sent: 04 September 2003 15:20 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you spew out certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take before seeing oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup. -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -----Original Message----- Sharman Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 6:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And having sat through the beta of the masters exam, let me reiterate what Reichert said in the article. You really do have to have the hands on experience to pass it. I've been using Oracle for something like 15 years now, and training others in the DBA world for 11 or so of those 12 years, and this was the hardest exam I've ever sat through. Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" 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