Apart from when you are on the move (to/from work), or sat at home in the evening, or at the pub, or shopping, or sat in Hooters.. How about when you're lay in bed on a Sunday morning (we've had customers fix problems in exactly this situation!)?
Monitors are great - we sell one! - and IMHO should be used alongside PocketDBA, but you never can tell when you're going to get a spurious error message and will have to investigate. The point behind the PDA tools is not to have a "gimmicky" little hand held, or to constantly be in a reactive mode - the point is to be able to fix a problem from anywhere, at any time, within a minimum response time. Within true 24x7 environments I believe that you SHOULD be able to do this - or potentially start losing money from downtime when you can't get to your laptop. Unless of course you want to sit inside by a PC and a land line constantly whilst you are on call.. DBAs have lives too.. ;) PocketDBA is not just about adding a datafile or a user either, it can be used as a full diagnostics tool too. Perhaps you should take a look at it before judging it - there's an online demo here: http://demo.xb.com/xba/app.. BTW Dick, the latest version is a LOT better when viewed through a standard desktop sized browser as well now. It's now not only a PDA tool, but is context sensitive to desktop, PDA, laptop or tablet browsers. So you can use at work as well if wish, or even on your laptop. I'll get off my high horse now ;) Mark -----Original Message----- Binley Lim Sent: 08 September 2003 21:49 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Good, you have a much lesser need for a vendor-grown monitoring PDA-tool to address problems, reactively, on the fly then. That was my point and I'm glad you agree ;-) ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:14 AM > Binley, > > I've spent more time than I care to remember in reactive mode. It stinks, which is most likely why I wrote my own database monitor 10 years ago. At least when it sees a problem it's 4 or more hours into the future before the end users know it's going to happen. And at that, 70% of the time that homegrown monitor fixes the issue on it's own. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 3:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > NAW, Sounds like someone else needs to get a real production support job. > Production issues ALL fall into one bucket, I needed to do something 10 > minutes ago. > > If you think like that, jokingly or otherwise, you are likely to lock > yourself into reactive mode versus proactive mode. 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