Tanel, Richard
   That was what my innocent question related to. I had played with LogMiner
without a dictionary and it was "challenging". Naturally with a program you
can take care of some of those issues in the program. Anyway, from the
replies this sounds feasible and probably really useful. Naturally if you
expect to become the next Bill Gates, then Oracle could easily cut you off
by making DUL generally available. But you could give it away for free as a
way of creating credentials for yourself in the Oracle community. Also, you
could probably get plenty of opportunities from desperate clients to help
them extract their data. In some of these situations, money doesn't mean so
much.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Regular blockdump interprets the result into human readable format.
However, if you set event 10289 at level 1, you'll have hexdumps instead &
can continue from there :)

Tanel.

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> Dennis, i dont think those 2 items you mentioned are that encoded, using
> the dump command you can see how they are stored.
>
> joe
>
>
> DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:
>
> >Wouldn't something like DUL need to read Oracle's dictionary? My
impression
> >is that a lot of stuff in the data files is heavily encoded, like date
and
> >number formats. Wouldn't you need the dictionary to understand where one
> >column stops and the next starts, and maybe even where one row ends and
the
> >next begins?
> >
> >Dennis Williams
> >DBA,
80%OCP,100%DBALifetouch,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SentThursday,September18,2003740AMToMultiplerecipientsoflistORACLE-LThereare
DULsmanual.httpwww.fors.comvelpuri2dul_ucg8.htmlMaybeinteresting for
someone.
> >
> >
> >-----Mensaje original-----
> >De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de
> >Pete Finnigan
> >Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 13:55
> >Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >Asunto: Re: How to extract data directly from a datafile ?
> >
> >
> >Hi Tanel,
> >
> >A free DUL in C would be very nice to have and to study the source code
> >of. maybe you should also contact Kurt van Meerbeek of jDUL project on
> >sourceforge, maybe you have some ideas or info he doesn't have that
> >could help his efforts or of course Richard's efforts.
> >
> >kind regards
> >
> >Pete
> >--
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