I doubt it the jinitiator will ever go away for forms.  It is Oracle's method of 
insuring an
appropriate JVM on the client machine.

FWIW, Sun's JVM 1.4.2 works out of the box for linux systems.  No tweeks in the 
appsweb.cfg file at
all!

Ron Thomas
Hypercom, Inc
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Tim,

The Forms&Reports are still there, the main part of Apps will continue using
them long time. I've not touched 11.5.9 yet, maybe they've modified new
installation config that way it doesn't require jinitiator on Windows
platforms anymore, but the java forms you see, are still generated using
Oracle Forms (with the exception of SSF, self service framework, which is
HTML&jsp) and reports are still run using Oracle Reports.

Tanel.

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> Plus, no more jinitiator in 11.5.9!  Finally, the removal of
> SQL*Form/Oracle*Forms/Forms is complete...
>
>
>
>
> on 9/19/03 4:24 PM, Ron Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Thanks for the info.
> >
> > You may want to skip 11.5.8 and go to 11.5.9.  There are major patches
(the
> > family pack variety) to
> > apply subsequent to 11.5.8
> >
> > Ron Thomas
> > Hypercom, Inc
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. -- Kernighan
> >
> >
> >
> >                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >                     s.com                    To:
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> >                     Sent by:                 cc:
> >                     [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Subject:  RE: Apps 11.5.8
and 9i
> >                     .com
> >
> >
> >                     09/19/2003 04:54
> >                     PM
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> >                     ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > We are 'in the process' of moving from 11.5.7/8.1.7.4 to
11.5.8/9.2.0.4 -
> > planning/testing starts after approval. We went ahead and installed a
test
> > db in any case. Make sure that you start out with 9.2.0.4 - the older
> > 9.2.0.3 is buggy and Oracle seems to have ratified .4 recently.
> >
> > John Kanagaraj
> > DB Soft Inc
> > Phone: 408-970-7002 (W)
> >
> > Grace - Getting something we do NOT deserve
> > Mercy - NOT getting something we DO deserve
> > Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is freely
> > available!
> >
> > ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine
and do
> > not reflect those of my employer or customers **
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ron Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 2:50 PM
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >> Subject: Apps 11.5.8 and 9i
> >>
> >>
> >> Has anyone upgraded Oracle Applications 11.5.8 from database
> >> version 8.1.7 to 9i?  Was it good, bad,
> >> indifferent in regards to performance?
> >>
> >> I'd like to because of some of the database enhancements, but
> >> the CIO asked the "performance"
> >> question.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ron Thomas
> >> Hypercom, Inc
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Each new user of a new system uncovers a new class of bugs. --
> >> Kernighan
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