Mladen
   Well, from the manager's point of view it probably seems like
"challenging your knowledge", but that isn't my usual reaction. Just ask my
boss.
   But my point is that when the secretary misunderstood you, your reaction
at the time probably wasn't sincere sympathy for her plight. With years of
distance you are probably able to laugh at it.
   Well, being a manager means that you must often deal with issues you have
little experience in. We've probably all had managers that didn't understand
DBA work but could still work past that and make us productive. And then
we've had klutzes that couldn't.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 15:29, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote:

>    The manager feels awkward in being forced to hire an expert in an area
> he/she knows nothing about. Tries to make suggestions in order to flush
out
> whether this "expert" really knows anything.

And you call a guy who makes suggestions about something 
he knows nothing about "inexperienced"? Nice euphemism, 
sort of reminds me on my 1st working day in US, when I went
to the admin who had the keys of the stationary (and she was a
young and attractive female, which is important for the further 
story development) and asked her for a "rubber", instead of "eraser".
In the English language they taught me at school, that little rubbery
implement used to erase what someone has written down was known as
"rubber". I was extremely annoyed by her reaction (she was actually 
shocked and started speaking very fast, so that the only words I 
was able to discern were  "sexual harassment") and I didn't think much
of her, to say the least. Today I dread to even think what did she think
of me. 
A DBA manager who doesn't know anything of a database is, essentially,
in the very same position as a big east European klutz in desperate need
of office stuff. Inexperienced isn't the word I'd use to describe him.





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