Paul,

We use Advanced Security. the product is pricey and difficult to setup; but
once in place it's in solid footing.

Advanced security does not replace VPN per se; it's purpose is slightly
different and broader in scope. If you take VPN away, how do you suppose you
will connect to the DB server, directly? Hardly. So, VPN _may_ be required
regardless.

Some of the uses of AS are (not exhaustive)

1. Encryption and Checksumming of Net8 connection between the db server and
the app servers (and any other users connected to the db server directly).
This is the bare minimum security manadated by HIPAA and unfortunately
Oracle does not provide a solution as a part of the base product. You may
not need it, though; since using intelligent subnets and using firewalls
around the db servers can limit threats to an acceptable degree.

2. Single signon. We use it in our app servers (running IIS) where the
authentication is done using certificates. Again, this is necessary due to
the refusal of the Development group to introduce database userids and
eliminate the application authentication.

The second part can be addressed in a different way. Using an application
user security model where the users supply their userid and password to the
database for authentication will eliminate the need to have a Windows user
to be authenticated. A simple mechanism will be to authenticate the user
agaist the database as the very first step. If authentication fails, the app
will not proceed further. This will eliminate the authentication of the user
by Windows. This model has been in use on a different app here and works
great; but on the other app, the manager insists on one authentication on
Windows and then another on the database, hence single signon.

HTH.

Arup Nanda
www.proligence.com

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> Thanks, everyone, for your helpful responses.
>
> A talk with our Oracle sales droid has pointed me in the direction of
> Oracle Advanced Security for authentication, encryption, and integrity.
>  Anyone have experience using this?  We are considering using Entrust
> SSL authentication as we already use Entrust to authenticate users of
> our app.  Would Advanced Security replace a VPN, or coexist with it?
>
>
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