for a fair contracting rate, I could offer training? since Im apparently a renowned expert on the subject. > > From: John Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/29 Wed PM 01:44:33 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: RE: Perm job opening in MA > > Ryan, > Thank you for that accurate explanation as to what "excellent phone skills" > are. I just got to my email and have not had a chance to respond. I > appreciate your assistance. > > Regards, > John > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:30 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > it means you need to be able to handle stupid questions without losing your > temper. the best people to ask on this are the hardware support guys. They > get the true 'gems', when it comes to stupid questions. They should provide > training to oracle dba's on the topic. > > I was at a conference resently and I saw a video of a performance analyst > helping a client. The performance analyst grabbed the keyboard and beat the > client senseless. > not exactly the kind of solution they are looking for... > > it also means you know how to speak english and explain complex material to > lay people. Its kind of like going to the doctor because you have a head > ache and the doctor recites somethingy ou might hear on ER. Not real helpful > to a lay person. > > > > From: "Igor Neyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 11:24:28 EST > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Perm job opening in MA > > > > LOL! > > Mladen, I think you are missed on "off-topic" list -:) > > > > Igor Neyman, OCP DBA > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Mladen Gogala > > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:54 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Don't get me wrong, I've recently changed positions and am not > > interested, > > but what are "phone skills"? I know how to use a phone, and I can do it > > in > > yoga position with one hand tied behind my back. I've never used a phone > > under > > water or in space. I use it on a regular basis while commuting or in > > restaurants. It helps tremendously with finding a free seat. As for the > > > > communication over the phone, you should hear my inventive use of the > > English > > language when I'm talking to telemarketers. Creative assumptions about > > their > > ancestry and its position on the evolution tree and sexual preferences > > of their parents are the most common opener after which I usually take > > the > > poor soul to the place where no telemarketer has gone before. Do I have > > the > > right idea about the "phone skills" or you have in mind some extremely > > innovative use of phone which would be inappropriate for a good catholic > > like > > me? > > > > On 2003.10.28 20:09, John Spencer wrote: > > > I hope I am not breaching any rules, but I would like to make it > > public that > > > I am currently trying to fill a temp to perm position for a Sr level > > > Oracle/customer support person in Massachusetts. This person must have > > > strong Oracle and Sun Solaris skills and some Java (J2EE and Java > > beans) > > > experience. Must have excellent phone skills and the ability to work > > with > > > customers on installs and other issues. Experience must include stored > > > procedures and triggers. > > > > > > Local candidates only please. Please reply directly to me at > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Thanks again for your time. > > > > > > Regards, > > > John Spencer > > > Sr. Staffing Consultant > > > ProStart Inc. > > > 603-893-7772 ext 45 > > > 603-893-7704 fax > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mladen Gogala > > Oracle DBA > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Mladen Gogala > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Igor Neyman > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > >Title: RE: RE: Perm job opening in MA
Ryan,
Thank you for that accurate explanation as to what "excellent phone skills" are. I just got to my email and have not had a chance to respond. I appreciate your assistance.Regards,
John-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: RE: Perm job opening in MAit means you need to be able to handle stupid questions without losing your temper. the best people to ask on this are the hardware support guys. They get the true 'gems', when it comes to stupid questions. They should provide training to oracle dba's on the topic.
I was at a conference resently and I saw a video of a performance analyst helping a client. The performance analyst grabbed the keyboard and beat the client senseless.
not exactly the kind of solution they are looking for...
it also means you know how to speak english and explain complex material to lay people. Its kind of like going to the doctor because you have a head ache and the doctor recites somethingy ou might hear on ER. Not real helpful to a lay person.
>
> From: "Igor Neyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/10/29 Wed AM 11:24:28 EST
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Perm job opening in MA
>
> LOL!
> Mladen, I think you are missed on "off-topic" list -:)
>
> Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Mladen Gogala
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:54 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Don't get me wrong, I've recently changed positions and am not
> interested,
> but what are "phone skills"? I know how to use a phone, and I can do it
> in
> yoga position with one hand tied behind my back. I've never used a phone
> under
> water or in space. I use it on a regular basis while commuting or in
> restaurants. It helps tremendously with finding a free seat. As for the
>
> communication over the phone, you should hear my inventive use of the
> English
> language when I'm talking to telemarketers. Creative assumptions about
> their
> ancestry and its position on the evolution tree and sexual preferences
> of their parents are the most common opener after which I usually take
> the
> poor soul to the place where no telemarketer has gone before. Do I have
> the
> right idea about the "phone skills" or you have in mind some extremely
> innovative use of phone which would be inappropriate for a good catholic
> like
> me?
>
> On 2003.10.28 20:09, John Spencer wrote:
> > I hope I am not breaching any rules, but I would like to make it
> public that
> > I am currently trying to fill a temp to perm position for a Sr level
> > Oracle/customer support person in Massachusetts. This person must have
> > strong Oracle and Sun Solaris skills and some Java (J2EE and Java
> beans)
> > experience. Must have excellent phone skills and the ability to work
> with
> > customers on installs and other issues. Experience must include stored
> > procedures and triggers.
> >
> > Local candidates only please. Please reply directly to me at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Thanks again for your time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Spencer
> > Sr. Staffing Consultant
> > ProStart Inc.
> > 603-893-7772 ext 45
> > 603-893-7704 fax
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
> --
> Author: Mladen Gogala
> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
> --
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