Personal Opinion here:  I don't use SYS or system for anything where it is not 
absolutely required.  All of the DBA's have the DBA role granted to them & we log on 
as ourselves.  This is simply so that we don't accidentally step on something really 
important.  In general one should never create anything in the SYS schema since it 
won't get exported when you do a full database export.  System is a little safer, but 
still..  I have seen a couple of "white papers" that have made statements such as "SYS 
and SYSTEM should be locked and never opened" as well as other similar alarming (to 
the pointy headed non-technical types) statements that indicate that disaster is 
waiting in the wings.  All of them can be summarily dismissed as having been written 
by those who are similarly non-technical.  BTW: Even if you are auditing, a DBA can 
eliminate the records in V$Audit of they wish.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA

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We are being asked by Auditing to stop using the SYS, and SYSTEM
accounts.  They would like for us to create an Oracle Role with the same
permissions a SYS and SYSTEM, then grant the role to each of the DBA's.
Don't ask me why.  Nothing is being audited in 99% of the databases.
They just say it in a paper some where so they said we shouldn't use it.
This seems like it would cause lots of problems with exports, imports,
installs, etc...  Has anyone had to deal with this type of request?  Any
potential problems with making the change?

Thanks!
Ron Smith
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