Hi Faan,

 Thanks Faan for this effectively critical point. Like
you I have faced this problem after applying some
patch (FND patches on 11.5.7) and since I have standby
database as emergency environment. It was big problem.
I wrote a scripts to detect such events and I read
some metalink docs that said Oracle will leave these
unrecoverable options on their future patches.

Have nice day,

Kader


--- Faan DeSwardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kader,
> 
> Just a word of caution when considering options. 
> Keep an eye on all the Apps objects that have
> NOLOGGING set.  Last time I checked there were over
> a thousand of those which were mostly indexes but
> there are some tables among them.  These are a real
> pain when using redo log refreshing/updating
> techniques like Quest's SharePlex and Dataguard.
> 
> Definitely check out Metalink notes 216212.1 and
> 216211.1 when considering and implementing this
> refreshing technique.
> 
> Good Luck and may the Force be with you!
> 
> -f
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> At 06:24 3-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
> >Hi Listers,
> >
> >I'm about producing document to my boss about
> >different strategies to build Informational
> database
> >(reporting database) and ETL. Our production
> database
> >is 9i supporting Oracle Financials 11i.
> >
> >I'm concerned about the strategies that have a
> minimum
> >impact on the overload of production database.
> >
> >Could you please give me your advise and
> experience.
> >Any input well be very appreciated.
> 
> Hi Kader,
> 
> What do you mean with ETL? Is your reporting
> database a DWH, and are you 
> considering unload from production and ETL into it?
> Or do you just need an 
> exact copy of your production database? What
> frequency should it be 
> updated? Daily, Weekly, real-time?
> 
> For some of these options Data Guard might be a
> solution, for others not.
> For a daily update you can create a (physical)
> standby database and put it 
> in read-only mode. You can query along, transactions
> get forwarded but not 
> processed in the meantime. Every midnight, for
> instance, you switch the 
> standby from R/O to Managed Recovery mode, and it
> will 'synchronise' using 
> the redologs received since the last
> synchronisation. After synchronisation 
> put it back into R/O mode, and you can query all day
> long. During 
> synchronisation the database isn't available for
> reporting. Data Guard 
> comes for free with your Oracle Licence. However, as
> discussed in an 
> earlier thread on this list, you have to pay for the
> standby server, unless 
> , AFAIK, you're paying according to the
> named-user-plus model.
> 
> It will give you the lowest possible overhead on
> your production database, 
> except from using non-oracle storage level options
> like mirroring disks and 
> detach them every n hours.
> 
> 
> Regards, Carel-Jan
> 
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