That's right, it is just another crap. I would rather use Linux instead of Solarix for x86.
----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 07:29 > > On 2003.12.15 07:09, "Boivin, Patrice J" wrote: > > Now if Oracle could release a version of its products for Solaris x86. > > Why would you use it? So that SUN can, at Scott McNealy's whim, start charging for it? > What is needed is not yet another Unix for x86, support for already existing public domain > Unix like system. SUN will have to accept Linux, not compete against it, just like IBM did. > > > > > Patrice. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/34450.html > > > <http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/34450.html> > > > > > > Sun sets Solaris x86 free > > > By Ashlee Vance in Chicago <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Posted: 10/12/2003 at 23:01 GMT > > > > > > Almost two years after it went on hiatus, Sun Microsystems' Solaris x86 > > > has come back in full form with free downloads of the operating system > > > becoming available once again, The Register has discovered. > > > > > > Some users call Sun's decision to give Solaris x86 away again a small > > > step, but without doubt the move does bring some degree of closure to part > > > of a messy affair. Starting this week, Sun has removed the $20 price-tag > > > for the OS - versions 8 and 9, replacing it with a red FREE sign > > > <http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/get.html > > > <http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/get.html> > instead. A fair > > > number of Sun users have kept a close eye on this saga and will remember > > > that it was way back in Jan. of 2002 when Sun first said it would halt > > > development on Solaris x86 only to buckle and bring the OS back at cost. > > > > > > Big Solaris x86 fan Bruce Riddle wrote > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solarisx86/message/1433?threaded=1 > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/solarisx86/message/1433?threaded=1> >, > > > "This is really great news and shows that Sun is committed to Solaris > > > x86," on a message board dedicated to the subject. > > > > > > And why not pat Sun on the back? > > > > > > Since giving Solaris x86 users the finger two year ago, Sun has worked > > > rather hard to put the OS for Intel and AMD processors on equal footing > > > with Solaris/Sparc and Linux. Sun has vowed to have its entire enterprise > > > software stack - known as the Java Enterprise System - run on Solaris x86. > > > In addition, Sun now has Athlon, Xeon and, yes, Opteron hardware to run > > > its OS. The Opteron bit is a particular point of interest, as Sun is > > > quickly establishing itself as the premier enterprise Unix supplier for > > > the new chip. > > > > > > Guns blazing, right? > > > > > > Well, a rather feisty chap from Penn State University named John Groenveld > > > doesn't think so. > > > > > > Groenveld owns the title of the most disgruntled Solaris x86 user on the > > > planet and relishes this role. When Sun was trying to back away from the > > > OS, it was Groenveld that gathered funds to place ads in major dailies > > > blasting Sun CEO Scott McNealy for abandoning a very loyal portion of the > > > company's user base. One point of interest there is that some Sun > > > engineers actually helped fund the ads. > > > > > > Now Groenveld is ready to strike again for what he is calling a "customer > > > service failure at Sun." He is threating to launch another ad campaign. > > > > > > "The January 8 anniversary (of Sun nixing Solaris x86) is an important > > > date for the community to make this failure clear," he said. > > > > > > Groenveld is an associate research engineer at Penn State - a university > > > that has been running Solaris x86 in production since the early 1990s. > > > When Sun seemed to waver on the OS, "they left the university in the > > > lurch." And so resentment was born. > > > > > > What Groenveld wants is direct and consistent answers from what he sees as > > > sparring divisions within Sun - the Solaris stalwarts and the Linux > > > upstarts. > > > > > > In particular, Groenveld wants to know > > > <http://www.save-solaris.org/estrin-2003-09-04.html > > > <http://www.save-solaris.org/estrin-2003-09-04.html> > where copies of > > > StarOffice 7.0 for Solaris x86 are hiding. Over at StarOffice central, > > > you'll > > > notice<http://wwws.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/requirements.html> > > > Solaris x86 seems to be missing from the supported OS list. > > > > > > It took Sun a few months, but they have promised Groenveld a copy of the > > > office suite for Solaris x86 is coming. He would just like Sun to make > > > this clear in a public fashion to convince those users nervous about Sun's > > > intentions that the product is most certainly on its way. > > > > > > "Just put it up on the product page so at least people know it will be > > > there eventually," Groenveld said. > > > > > > Now, there are certain workers within Sun that think Groenveld pushes a > > > bit too hard. The company can't be perfect, and it's doing all it can to > > > get this OS going again, they say. > > > > > > While this debate is best left between the respective parties, we can say > > > that a tremendous amount of work is going on right now within the Solaris > > > x86 group at Sun and that enthusiasm for the OS from the engineering side > > > seems to be at an all-time high. > > > > > > Take, for example, Sun's official reason for brining the free download > > > program back. > > > > > > "Sun recently reviewed its strategy for the downloading of the Solaris OS > > > and the impacts that charging a nominal fee has on a global market," Sun > > > said. "By eliminating the download charge for all versions of Solaris OS, > > > Sun is enabling its many customers that are unable to place orders in US > > > Dollars--for example in Asia and Europe--to download Solaris easily. With > > > the announcement of Sun's alliance with AMD, there is an accelerating > > > global demand for Solaris x86 that can be quickly addressed by improving > > > the download experience for potential customers and evaluators of the > > > Solaris x86 OS for both 32 and 64-bit platforms." > > > > > > So there you have it, Sun does have guns blazing after all. > > > > > > It's good to have Groenveld watching Sun, making sure promises are kept. > > > Users should see his enthusiasm for what it is - an unrelenting urge to > > > thrust Solaris on the Wintel world. > > > > > > While Sun may have its slip ups here and there, the company seems well on > > > its way to making Solaris x86 a solid production platform of choice for > > > Intel and AMD users. 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