Asan si Hannah?

At 05:54 AM 12/23/2003 -0800, you wrote:
PING doesnt actually use a port number, as it's not TCP/IP based - it's a
part of the ICMP protocol..

Mark


-----Original Message----- Ganesh Raja Sent: 23 December 2003 13:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


TNSping uses the Port 1521 to communicate .. Not Sure which Port Ping will use..

HTH

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-----Original Message----- Mercadante, Thomas F Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 20:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


ANd one more thing about Ping vs Tnsping when going thru a firewall. Some firewalls are setup to not allow a Ping to pass thru, but sql connections are allowed. So a Ping will return not found, while a tnsping will return ok. I have that situation here all over the freakin place.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I came across just this last week with one of our monitoring tools. We set up an execution of a script that was using PING to check whether the status of a list of remote POS devices to make sure they were available. The collection worked fine - until we shutdown the POS device, and physically switched it off - and the PING still replied!

The POS devices have UPS built in to them.. The client also thought it
may have been the way that DNS/DHCP was set up via the router. It
stumped me for a time.. ;)

We use NETSVC now to check for the status of a service.

Mark

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-----Original Message-----
Jared Still
Sent: 23 December 2003 04:34
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Paul mentioned a few reasons for this.


Another is that a ping does not get past the NIC.  The
ping is answered by software running on the card.  You
may have noticed at times that a ping is not a reliable
method for determining if a server is still functioning.

The OS can crash, but the NIC still responds to a ping.

Tnsping on the other hand must get a response from Oracle
Net service or daemon running on the server, a much longer
path as Paul pointed out.

HTH

Jared

On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 17:29, Murali Vallath wrote:
> I have recently noticed in this one situation that there is a great
difference between a tnsping vs a regular ping to the same server.
>
> for example  this tnsping took about 270 ms which is strange and its
consistent
>
> Used TNSNAMES adapter to resolve the alias
> Attempting to contact (DESCRIPTION = (ADD
> RESS_LIST = (load_balance = on) (failover = on) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL =
TCP)(HOST
>  = myhost1.com)(PORT = 1521)) (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST =
myhost2.com)(
> PORT = 1521))) (CONNECT_DATA = (SERVICE_NAME = xyzdb) (FAILOVER_MODE =
(TYPE
>  = SELECT) (METHOD = BASIC) (RETRIES = 20) (DELAY = 15))))
> OK (270 msec)
>
> and a ping to the same host
>
> Ping statistics for x.x.x.x:
>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate
> round trip times in milli-seconds:
>     Minimum = 61ms, Maximum =  70ms, Average =  67ms
>
> Why could there be such a difference?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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