Jonathan,

Second session, same user:  first is soft w/o authentication.  Second is
session cursor cache hit.
Second session, different user: first is soft w/ authentication.  Second
is session cursor cache hit.

So, once everything is cached, the same user case is as expected, and
the different user case does even better than you predicted.

-Mark

Mark J. Bobak
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Excellent !!

I've been demonstrating in the past using v$latch
that the latch costs of parsing are different on 
the first, second, and third parse - and I've assumed
that that's why the cursor goes into the cache on
the third parse.  I've never thought that the
'cursor authentication' statistic might be relevant.

If you go to the other session 
    a)  Where the user is the same - do you see a 
        session cache cursor hit on the second execution,
        or does it still not appear until the fourth
        Rationale - maybe the cursor is put into the cache
        on the first hit after full authentication.

    b)    Where the user is different - do you see a
        session cache cursor hit on the THIRD execution,
        or does it still not appear until the fourth.
        Rationale - the first execution generates the in-memory
        permissions; the second execution finds the cursor
        authenticated, therefore causes a cache load.

The manual says the cursor is cached on the third execution -
but maybe that's the "obvious" result from the simplest test.


Regards

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> Ok, I did a little experiment.  Here are my results:
> 
> In session A, I do:
> I did 'select sid from v$mystat where rownum=1;'
> I did 'alter session set session_cached_cursors=100;'
> I did 'alter system flush shared_pool;'
> 
> In session B, I ran the following:
> select my.statistic#, sn.name, my.value from v$sesstat my, v$statname
sn
>  where sn.statistic#=my.statistic#
>    and sn.statistic# in(179,180,191,193)
>    and my.sid=62;
> 
> Which yielded the baseline stats:
> STATISTIC# NAME
VALUE
> ---------- --------------------------------------------------
----------
>        179 parse count (total)
60
>        180 parse count (hard)
9
>        191 session cursor cache hits
6
>        193 cursor authentications
6
> 
> Now, session A:
> Select /* this is my unique sql */ * from dual;
> 
> Session B shows:
> STATISTIC# NAME
VALUE
> ---------- --------------------------------------------------
----------
>        179 parse count (total)
62
>        180 parse count (hard)
10
>        191 session cursor cache hits
6
>        193 cursor authentications
6
> 
> Two more total parses, one hard.  (The extra soft parse due to
recursive
> sql?)
> 
> Now, session A:
> /
> (Re-execute query)
> 
> Session B:
> STATISTIC# NAME
VALUE
> ---------- --------------------------------------------------
----------
>        179 parse count (total)
63
>        180 parse count (hard)
10
>        191 session cursor cache hits
6
>        193 cursor authentications
7
> 
> Hmm...no hard parse, soft parse and 'cursor authentication'.
> 
> Session A:
> /
> (execute a third time)
> 
> Session B:
> STATISTIC# NAME
VALUE
> ---------- --------------------------------------------------
----------
>        179 parse count (total)
64
>        180 parse count (hard)
10
>        191 session cursor cache hits
6
>        193 cursor authentications
7
> 
> Hmm...soft parse, NO cursor authentication.  This is just the third
> exec, so no session cursor cache hit, but we should be in the session
> cursor cache now.
> 
> Session A:
> /
> (Fourth execution)
> 
> Session B:
> STATISTIC# NAME
VALUE
> ---------- --------------------------------------------------
----------
>        179 parse count (total)
65
>        180 parse count (hard)
10
>        191 session cursor cache hits
7
>        193 cursor authentications
7
> 
> There's our session cursor cache hit!
> 
> So, it seems that this is happening:
> 
> 1.)  Hard parse.
> 2.)  Soft parse w/ 'cursor authentication'.
> 3.)  Soft parse w/o 'cursor authentication'.
> 4.)  Soft parse w/ session cursor cache hit.
> All subsequent executions are same as #4.
> 
> Two more quick tests:
> I tried connecting another session, as the same user, and there was no
> 'cursor authentication'.  So, I tried ano connection as a *different*
> user, and, voila!, cursor authentication was done on the first
> execution!
> 
> So, I'll think about this a bit more, but I think one can distinguish
> between all the cases you mentioned.  What do you think, Jonathan?
> 
> -Mark
> 

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