Thanks alot Fitz, This is really helpful while waiting for the help I
worked on the fallowing but I will go over the solution that you
publish and see what I can extract to enhance what I created... once
again thanks for the detail explanation.

create or replace trigger checkDepartment
before insert on dept for each row
declare vDeptNumber number;
pragma autonomous_transaction;
begin
check_dno(:new.deptno, vDeptNumber);
 if vDeptNumber != -1 then
        INSERT INTO dept_audit
                (deptno, dname, loc, tot_emps, tot_sals)
        VALUES
                (:new.deptno, :new.dname, :new.loc, :new.tot_emps, 
:new.tot_sals);
        commit;
 else
        raise_application_error(-20300, 'Value already exists');
 end if;
end;
/

On Oct 6, 1:51 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 1:31 pm, JNewMember <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I want to Write a trigger that when a new department is added, Checks
> > the uniqueness of the DEPTNO using the stored procedure or functions
> > that I have written, If the deptno value is unique(doesn't exists)
> > then it adds the department to the table
>
> > I have fallowing procedure
> > create or replace procedure check_dno (deptNum number, returnValue out
> > number)
> > is
> >  v_deptNum number;
> > begin
> >   select deptno into v_deptNum from dept where deptno = deptNum;
> >   if deptNum = v_deptNum then
> >         returnValue := -1;
> >   else
> >         returnValue := 1;
> >   end if;
> > exception
> > when NO_DATA_FOUND THEN
> >         dbms_output.put_line('Department Number does not exists');
> >         returnValue := 1;
> > end check_dno;
> > /
>
> > I started on writing the trigger like this...
> > create or replace trigger checkDepartment
> > after insert on dept
> > for each row
> > declare vDeptNumber number;
> > begin
> >  check_dno(:new.deptno, vDeptNumber)
>
> > I am not sure how to go further...
>
> > Thanks,
>
> You don't, plainly and simply put, as it won't work:
>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Let's create a procedure to check the uniqueness of
> department numbers
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Writing this, of course, is a mistake
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> create or replace procedure check_dno (deptNum number,
> returnValue out
> 13:36:38   2  number)
> 13:36:38   3  is
> 13:36:38   4   v_deptNum number; -- Variable is NULL by default
> 13:36:38   5  begin
> 13:36:38   6    select deptno into v_deptNum from dept where deptno =
> deptNum;
> 13:36:38   7    if deptNum = v_deptNum then -- of course if nothing is
> returned ...
> 13:36:38   8          returnValue := -1;
> 13:36:38   9    else
> 13:36:38  10          --
> 13:36:38  11          -- This procedure will never execute this line
> of code
> 13:36:38  12          -- because nothing equals NULL
> 13:36:38  13          --
> 13:36:38  14          returnValue := 1;
> 13:36:38  15    end if;
> 13:36:38  16  exception
> 13:36:38  17  when NO_DATA_FOUND THEN
> 13:36:38  18          dbms_output.put_line('Department Number does not
> exists');
> 13:36:38  19          returnValue := 1;
> 13:36:38  20  end check_dno;
> 13:36:38  21  /
>
> Procedure created.
>
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Fixing the procedure is simple
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Writing it is still a mistake, though
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> create or replace procedure check_dno (deptNum number,
> returnValue out
> 13:36:38   2  number)
> 13:36:38   3  is
> 13:36:38   4   v_deptNum number;
> 13:36:38   5  begin
> 13:36:38   6    select deptno into v_deptNum from dept where deptno =
> deptNum;
> 13:36:38   7    if deptNum = v_deptNum then
> 13:36:38   8          returnValue := -1;
> 13:36:38   9    end if;
> 13:36:38  10  exception
> 13:36:38  11  when NO_DATA_FOUND THEN
> 13:36:38  12          returnValue := 1;
> 13:36:38  13  end check_dno;
> 13:36:38  14  /
>
> Procedure created.
>
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Now let's write a trigger to use that procedure
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> create or replace trigger chk_deptno
> 13:36:38   2  before insert on dept
> 13:36:38   3  for each row
> 13:36:38   4  declare
> 13:36:38   5          retVal number;
> 13:36:38   6  begin
> 13:36:38   7          check_dno(:new.deptno, retVal);
> 13:36:38   8          if retVal = -1 then
> 13:36:38   9                  raise_application_error(-20001,
> 'Department number '||:new.deptno||' exists.');
> 13:36:38  10          end if;
> 13:36:38  11  end;
> 13:36:38  12  /
>
> Trigger created.
>
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Now let's check to see if this really works
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- We'll try this from two separate sessions
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- and see if the changes from session #1 can be
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- 'seen' by session #2
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- They can't, but, let's prove that
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL> -- Session  #1
> 13:36:38 SQL> --
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> insert into dept
> 13:36:38   2  values (80, 'RECYCLING','BERMUDA');
>
> 1 row created.
>
> 13:36:38 SQL>
> 13:36:38 SQL> exec dbms_lock.sleep(60)
>
> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>
> 13:37:38 SQL>
> 13:37:38 SQL> commit;
>
> Commit complete.
>
> 13:37:38 SQL>
> 13:37:38 SQL> select *
> 13:37:38   2  From dept
> 13:37:38   3  order by deptno;
>
>     DEPTNO DNAME           LOC
> ---------- --------------- -------------
>         10 ACCOUNTING      NEW YORK
>         20 RESEARCH        DALLAS
>         30 SALES           CHICAGO
>         40 OPERATIONS      BOSTON
>         50 HUMAN RESOURCES DULUTH
>         60 DATA SERVICES   KANSAS CITY
>         70 MARKETING       DULUTH
>         80 RECYCLING       BERMUDA
>
> 8 rows selected.
>
> 13:37:38 SQL>
> 13:37:38 SQL> --
> 13:37:38 SQL> -- Just one DEPT 80 here
> 13:37:38 SQL> --
> 13:37:38 SQL>
>
> Noting the time of the second insert is important:
>
> 13:36:50 SQL> --
> 13:36:50 SQL> -- Session #2
> 13:36:50 SQL> --
> 13:36:50 SQL>
> 13:36:50 SQL> insert into dept
> 13:36:50   2  values (80, 'RECYCLING','BERMUDA');  -- this insert
> occurs 12 seconds after the first, but
>
> -- BEFORE the first session commits its work
> 1 row created.
>
> 13:36:50 SQL>
> 13:36:50 SQL> exec dbms_lock.sleep(60);
>
> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>
> 13:37:50 SQL>
> 13:37:50 SQL> commit;
>
> Commit complete.
>
> 13:37:50 SQL>
> 13:37:50 SQL> select *
> 13:37:50   2  From dept
> 13:37:50   3  order by deptno;
>
>     DEPTNO DNAME           LOC
> ---------- --------------- -------------
>         10 ACCOUNTING      NEW YORK
>         20 RESEARCH        DALLAS
>         30 SALES           CHICAGO
>         40 OPERATIONS      BOSTON
>         50 HUMAN RESOURCES DULUTH
>         60 DATA SERVICES   KANSAS CITY
>         70 MARKETING       DULUTH
>         80 RECYCLING       BERMUDA
>         80 RECYCLING       BERMUDA
>
> 9 rows selected.
>
> 13:37:50 SQL>
> 13:37:50 SQL> --
> 13:37:50 SQL> -- but TWO DEPT 80's here
> 13:37:50 SQL> --
> 13:37:50 SQL> -- The trigger failed to do the intended job
> 13:37:50 SQL> --
> 13:37:50 SQL>
>
> And it will always fail under those conditions.  Why you feel it
> necessary to replace a primary key or unique constraint (which works)
> with a trigger that won't is a mystery.  Had a primary key been in
> place
> on the DEPTNO column of the DEPT table the first insert would have
> succeeded and the second would have failed:
>
> 13:45:25 SQL> alter table dept
> 13:45:30   2  add constraint dept_pk primary key(deptno);
>
> Table altered.
>
> 13:45:40 SQL> insert into dept
> 13:45:55   2  values (80, 'RECYCLING','BERMUDA');
>
> 1 row created.
>
> 13:45:56 SQL> commit;
>
> Commit complete.
>
> 13:46:11 SQL>
>
> 13:37:50 SQL> insert into dept
> 13:46:02   2  values (80, 'RECYCLING','BERMUDA');
> insert into dept
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-00001: unique constraint (BING.DEPT_PK) violated
>
> 13:46:11 SQL>
>
> No trigger, no procedure necessary, and no running into the read
> consistency mechanism Oracle employs (readers don't block writers and
> writers don't block readers) that caused your trigger/procedure
> implementation to fail.
>
> The Concepts Guide is a wonderful place to begin when trying to
> understand Oracle and how it works.
>
> David Fitzjarrell
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